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random: converting to non-turbo 2wd for cheap rally fun


DR1665
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 952916 posted 11/27/10 01:19 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
FlivverRally is coming!

4 guys sharing 1 2wd rally car. If I could get 3 guys to chip in, we could be a rally team and run 195/2000 in multiple events. Think: LeMons for rally.

Catch is, cars must be NA and 2wd. Would the stock rear diff be able to handle a non-turbo 4G63 up front if I capped the front outputs and welded the center diff? Thinking of installing higher CR pistons to keep it from being a dog.

Just curious. 195 will be a rally car, but to what extent?

Thanks.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 953042 posted 11/28/10 01:08 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
why not just buy a gs galant, I had one and it was pretty fun stock. by taking away the awd and turbo, your just making yourself look dumb on a vr4.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 953068 posted 11/28/10 10:19 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
DO NOT DO IT! Just by a GS if you must. Or some other 2wd NA car. Why would you even consider doing that when these cars are so rare

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 953073 posted 11/28/10 10:46 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
He's talking RWD not FWD and I think the car is already somewhat rally-prepped?



I know it's a foreign idea for most of us here, but you might want to try taking the car off jackstands.
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 953084 posted 11/28/10 12:08 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
NOES!!!!!





J/K





Do IT! I don't see why dq'ing the fronts and welding up the diff wouldn't hold up in that scenario. No Idea for how long though...

Think you can squeeze a std. rwd trans in there and rotate the engine? (I know, lots of extra work), but it would [robably last longer, be a bit lighter and.....Worst case, switch it back.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 953245 posted 11/28/10 10:40 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Why not just get a Galant GSX?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 953254 posted 11/28/10 11:14 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
When I made this post, I was thinking of going RWD without the turbo, but now I'm kinda thinking I might just pick up a FWD engine/trans and swap across to run Flivver Rally. The idea behind Flivver is four a team of 4 guys to run a $500 2WD non-turbo car, so doing this could mean three friends and I take turns racing at each event. Dunno yet. The car should be caged by Christmas, and I plan on running a number of different types of events with it, so why not swap a NT lump under the hood and have at it? It would be cheaper than LeMons!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 953623 posted 11/30/10 12:44 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
RWD the Galant! What do people love most about rallies? Crashes, fiery, multiple axis rotating crashes! What else do they love? Watching the tail end of a gravel spitting, RWD monster sliding past on rev limiter, showering them with razor sharp stones!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 953775 posted 11/30/10 03:36 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Get a Mirage, lighter, N/T and already FWD.



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Edited by Drew84 (11/30/10 03:37 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 954074 posted 12/01/10 01:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Wow, looks like at the least I will have to spectate. Seeing as how its in my neck of the woods.

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DR1665
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 954095 posted 12/01/10 03:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting Drew84:

Get a Mirage, lighter, N/T and already FWD.



If I were going to start over from scratch with a different platform, I'd be building a Volvo.

Still, could be an interesting idea for anyone who spots a running condition 6G LS...

And, mpt, yes. Yes, you will.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 954161 posted 12/01/10 07:41 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
No, start over with an old Colt Lancer! Lightweight RWD!

Quoting RedTwo:

RWD the Galant! What do people love most about rallies? Crashes, fiery, multiple axis rotating crashes! What else do they love? Watching the tail end of a gravel spitting, RWD monster sliding past on rev limiter, showering them with razor sharp stones!



Here's some visuals and inspiration for you!






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88 Fiji Blue Starion
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Edited by raptorreed (12/02/10 07:34 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 954289 posted 12/02/10 09:51 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Maybe even a starion/conquest converted non turbo? They handle pretty well and rwd. Just a thought. Keep me posted about this Brian and ill make sure you guys have some food and drinks!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 954327 posted 12/02/10 12:54 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Wow, thanks for posting that. I'm really interested in doing something like that. If you were closer I'd go in with you. Guess I'll have to round up some guys out here. Hopefully they have stuff in the works for all over, and not just on the west coast. I'll be getting in touch with the ombubsman tonight.



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DR1665
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 954385 posted 12/02/10 04:36 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting raptorreed:







You would bring Cowan into this. That car is already serving as inspiration for the future paint job of 195/2000.

(And okay, ya got me. When 195/2000 gets stuffed, 464/1000 is following in 195's footsteps, I will have a damn hard time trying to choose my next daily. Could be a 4g64-powered Volvo 244 turbo, but could also be an old school, RWD Colt.)



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 954430 posted 12/02/10 08:36 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
If you do the old colt thing, either keep the stock 4g32, swap a mivec 4g92, or do the 4g63/64 swap.



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