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anyone try using the EVO Ecu?


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 858703 posted 12/17/09 12:55 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I read on tuners that some 2g users are using it, and some 1g users are using this. anyone try it in the galant yet?
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 858705 posted 12/17/09 12:56 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I've never heard of it being done. What would be the point?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 858719 posted 12/17/09 01:44 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Lots of stock tuning capabilities with simply reflashing the evo ecu. Lots of guys are doing this with their 2nd gen dsms now.... Id love to give it a go on a 1st gen/galant.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 858723 posted 12/17/09 01:54 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I don't think anyone has done it in a 1g but there are 2g guys doing it. As mentioned, the tuning capabilities are more than worth it with the re-flashes available vs. the cost of a standalone.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 858730 posted 12/17/09 02:19 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 858756 posted 12/17/09 04:34 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
That's awesome. I wonder what they do about the knock sensor? Just use an evo one?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 858758 posted 12/17/09 04:43 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I came in here thinking that bruno was smoking too much of the good stuff but it sounds like a viable set up for a 2g. IMHO its easier to just get a DSMap set up and do basically the same thing with your stock GVR4 ECU though.

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^+1 That is pretty much what happens when I hit the upload button every time on Jackal/DS-Map.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 858861 posted 12/17/09 11:04 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Is there something special about the evo ECU? All 2g ecus after '98 should be reflashable.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 858934 posted 12/18/09 10:07 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I wonder if it is a 16 bit ecu? In any case, the hardware and software are much newer, that may make a difference. That, and can you just use the Evo re-flashing software on a 2g ecu? That would make a big difference.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 858949 posted 12/18/09 10:41 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
anyone who wants to try and make a harness that works, im willing to buy one ahaha. im looking for a whole new set up since my last ecu just took a shit.
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 859026 posted 12/18/09 03:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Here's half of it:
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 859127 posted 12/19/09 01:06 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
i have read that the evo knock sensor and ecu are better at seeing real knock and drivabilty is improved. Yhis is something I'd like to do at some point
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 859161 posted 12/19/09 09:41 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting jepherz:

I wonder if it is a 16 bit ecu? In any case, the hardware and software are much newer, that may make a difference. That, and can you just use the Evo re-flashing software on a 2g ecu? That would make a big difference.




I don't know what difference the 16 bit would make, as I am not up to speed on that very much. I am just saying why can't programs be flashed onto the stock ECU?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 859167 posted 12/19/09 09:56 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
There is a semi-local guy that has had some success with the evo 8 ecu.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 859251 posted 12/19/09 06:09 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I think the 2G-to-1G ECU swap may be even easier. Its already been done, years ago. The 98/99 Flash 2G ECU's should be pretty much plug-n-play, I just need to build a cable/adapter for it. You just need to swap to a 2G knock sensor, and possibly the coolant sensor.
Anyone want to be a guinea pig once I get it sorted out?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 859261 posted 12/19/09 07:07 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'd work with you, Jeff. I kinda want to try this EVO ecu out in any case.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 859355 posted 12/20/09 12:05 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting keydiver:

I think the 2G-to-1G ECU swap may be even easier. Its already been done, years ago. The 98/99 Flash 2G ECU's should be pretty much plug-n-play, I just need to build a cable/adapter for it. You just need to swap to a 2G knock sensor, and possibly the coolant sensor.
Anyone want to be a guinea pig once I get it sorted out?



so 98-99 ecu is reflashable too? If you make cables for it and are able to sell them, let me know, and if you decide to do the Evo ecu I'm down aswell.
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 859364 posted 12/20/09 12:43 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I believe 95 (2g) ecus were possible to get in eprom. After that, for OBDII they went flashable so probably any eclipse ecu from 96+ is flashable. Probably cheap too.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 859369 posted 12/20/09 12:53 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Uh, no. 1996 thru 1997 (and most 1995 FWD) were Non-EPROM ECU's with the ROM inside the CPU, where it is inaccessible. In 1998 they switched to a new CPU with internal flash memory. So, this only works for a 1998 or 1999 2G DSM ECU in a 1G/GVR-4.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 859371 posted 12/20/09 12:59 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
When do you think you'd be able to start working on the harness?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 859382 posted 12/20/09 01:55 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting keydiver:

Anyone want to be a guinea pig once I get it sorted out?




I'd be up for trying it out.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 859391 posted 12/20/09 02:24 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I have an VIII ecu and am in the process of building the conversion harness with a little help from Dan. It looks fairly straight forward but I won't have it done until this spring when I roll the car out with all the new goodies. I guess I'll add to this thread then.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 859499 posted 12/21/09 04:56 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Evo 8-9 ecu's are right on par with standalone systems and can also be covrerted to sd to get rid of that pesky maf that becomes a restriction in the mid to upper 500whp area.

I have seen it done in the 1g but I honestly did not take a close look or ask questions since I do not have a dsm or gvr4 anymore but it seems there is no real restriction in the stock ecu as it has made well over 700whp and can run 1500 cc injectors etc..


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 859504 posted 12/21/09 07:14 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
I've got Evo ecu's in-stok Jeff. So build the cable/harness & I'll put the car on the dyno to get some #s. My car is up & running again so things should be a lot easier to test.

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