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Getting angry with car stalling at stops


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 758999 posted 02/14/09 08:47 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
So I have been fighting this problem for a while, push in the clutch and the car dies. It does it worse after being parked for a bit, but can still do it anytime. With the lights on, its horrible. It seems the extra draw on the motor makes the problem worse. I was just out driving around and it died on me three times. Click the link to see my mods. I am ready to put this thing on blocks and get another car.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 759008 posted 02/14/09 09:06 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Had the same problem, worse when I had lights on/high current draw. Alternator went out soon afterward.
New alternator, no more stalling.
I had noticed the battery voltage on my logger was around 12.8 or so, shoulda been closer to 14v.
Check the battery voltage with lights on and off. Off should be around 14v, on no lower than 13.5v, else the alternator is probably gimpy.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 759010 posted 02/14/09 09:17 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Makes sense, the battery has been seeming a bit weak.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 759076 posted 02/15/09 08:04 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
had the same thing in my 1g dsm i took it to the local autozone and had them run a whole charging system test on it it came down to a bad alternator so it kinda took the guess work out of it a 135.00 later the car ran great and no more problems from what i have learned about these cars is that they eat alternators about every 3 years so I just got the one with a lifetime warranty when I sold the car I gave them the warranty info and about 6 months later they were changing it again so yeah in 2 years and n=months it ate it



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 759108 posted 02/15/09 10:49 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
It also could be that ur idle is set to low, try turning up ur idle just a hair and that will keep it from stalling



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 759113 posted 02/15/09 11:10 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Deez dont you also have big cams??



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 759115 posted 02/15/09 11:15 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
The cams are pretty mild, 264/272, and the problem existed before the cams went in. It just seemed to amplify it though. And the idle is fine, 850, it just has a hard time catching itself and just dies.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 759144 posted 02/15/09 01:27 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Might want to raise it to 900 or 950. If you have DsmLink you can play around with Coast FC adjustment.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 759150 posted 02/15/09 02:29 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting deez:

The cams are pretty mild, 264/272, and the problem existed before the cams went in. It just seemed to amplify it though. And the idle is fine, 850, it just has a hard time catching itself and just dies.




This is the problem I'm currently dealing with. Check the closed throttle switch on the throttle body with a Ohm-meter. If it is not working correctly, you will have stalling on most every as you put in clutch and let off gas pedal.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 759173 posted 02/15/09 04:33 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I just checked voltage with my logger and at idle with or without lights on, 14.0V. So I guess the alternator is good.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 759174 posted 02/15/09 04:34 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Lonewolf, do you have the testing procedure for that switch?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 759183 posted 02/15/09 05:17 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
+1...I am currently having the same issue



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 759185 posted 02/15/09 05:21 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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I believe it is on that page.

This page shows its location as the red dot.
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I hope this solves your problem, as well as mine. If the sensor is working correctly, make sure that you have a good contact between your spade boot and the sensor itself.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 759202 posted 02/15/09 06:05 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
"At least in one case, the switch failed 'permanently closed'... this seemed to prevent the ECU from dropping into idle mode, causing it to leave the ISC wide open, leaving the car with an abnormally high idle."

So that would explain a high idle, not falling on its face and dieing. Correct?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 759207 posted 02/15/09 06:19 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well that may be an issue for sure. Corroded, poor connection, and just nasty! Anyone have a plug out there and a switch?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 759222 posted 02/15/09 07:13 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Update...cut off the old connector and used a new spade, sanded the sensor side, dielectric grease, and the problem so far seems to be cured. I will keep you all posted how it goes.

The connector was badly corroded and in some positions, it had continuity, and in some, did not. So it was inconsistent for sure.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 759232 posted 02/15/09 07:43 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'm glad to hear that your problem is seemingly cured. I believe that your car was losing continuity because of the corroded plug which can in some cases lead to the car dying. I have yet to replace the plug on mine, but I was 90% sure that was the problem.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 759239 posted 02/15/09 07:56 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Now if I can solve the problem of the strange sounding transmission/throwout bearing....



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 759305 posted 02/15/09 10:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting deez:

Update...cut off the old connector and used a new spade, sanded the sensor side, dielectric grease, and the problem so far seems to be cured. I will keep you all posted how it goes.

The connector was badly corroded and in some positions, it had continuity, and in some, did not. So it was inconsistent for sure.




ive found a couple of my wires like that also, very frail and if the outter coating wares off and it eats the copper inside out. Spade connectors and heat shrink are a must! Once you fix 1 problem, another one is allways waiting for you. After a 2 year rebuild on 78/1k she still has minor issues that need to be adressed.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 762019 posted 02/22/09 04:14 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Okay, so fixing that switch didn't take care of the problem. Any other ideas?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 762100 posted 02/22/09 07:33 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
You are still stalling at stops? Damn, I was hoping that would fix it. I don't have any ideas but keep it updated for when you figure it out, because my car is suffering the exact same symptoms.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 762111 posted 02/22/09 08:17 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yup, I must have gotten lucky on my test drive after I fixed that connection. But its died on my about 6 times since. I'm about to buy another car.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 762115 posted 02/22/09 08:24 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'm sure you would have already though of this but nobody has said anything... is your bov recirculated or vented to the atmosphere? Could be as simple as a vented bov causing your problems.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 762163 posted 02/22/09 10:36 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Its recirculated, but good call.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 762201 posted 02/23/09 02:13 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Ok, good on the recirc.
Next, what is your fuel pressure? I've seen the FPR go bad or the vac hose come off and dump too much fuel at idle.
I saw in your mods you run a chip and SAFC, is the chip burned to your current settings and/or how much is the SAFC doing? Maybe clear the SAFC and see what happens if the fuel pressure checks OK.
Last, look for vac leaks around the manifold.



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