I won a FMIC from these guys on ebay and 3 days later it was at my house and as described. A nice suprise in these days of ebay con-artists and slow shippers. 23.5x11.5x4 bar and plate core with end tanks already on for under $250 !! Definitely give them a look, the FMIC I got is on special until the end of March for $300 shipped, I think.