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Is a JDM VR4 2.0 engine any better than a US one?


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1242255 posted 04/10/18 05:11 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Since I blew mine up, , I was thinking about dropping in a 50K mile JDM one. It has this "Cool" "Cyclone" intake on it and all too! It comes with the ECM and transmission. So I was wondering if there was any advantage from the Jap market.
I realize the Jap ECU will request better octane, so I'll like be changing over to my sensors and basically just be using the long block anyway.
Thoughts?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1242256 posted 04/10/18 07:27 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
If you have emissions requirements, the Cyclone intake does not have EGR provision, fwiw.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1242259 posted 04/10/18 09:29 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting scottinalaska:

Since I blew mine up, , I was thinking about dropping in a 50K mile JDM one. It has this "Cool" "Cyclone" intake on it and all too! It comes with the ECM and transmission. So I was wondering if there was any advantage from the Jap market.
I realize the Jap ECU will request better octane, so I'll like be changing over to my sensors and basically just be using the long block anyway.
Thoughts?

Scott



Do you know what year the JDM engine is? It could be an early model which has the same 450cc blue top injectors and TD05H-14B turbo that makes barely 10hp more than the USDM engine. Or it could be the later Evolution model with 510cc yellow top injectors and TD05H-big16G turbo that makes 240hp. Things like knock sensor, coolant temp sensor, oil pressure sensor etc are all going to be the same. Main difference is the JDM engine uses an air-to-oil oil cooler like the '90 DSM, and the inlet manifold needs the JDM ECU to control the Cyclone butterflies. You could of course just swap over your USDM inlet manifold and not have to worry about that. Pistons/compression ratios, cams, head castings etc are all the same between JDM and USDM.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1242280 posted 04/12/18 01:45 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thanks for the insight there. Is there a visual way to tell the difference easily? Would yellow top injectors be a giveaway? or something on the turbo? These are just situated on pallets usually. When you say a "later Evolution" model, would this be post 1992? Meaning maybe I should be looking for an Evolution motor? Thanks!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1242282 posted 04/12/18 08:02 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Would be 91 and 92. Yes look at the injectors as well as the text on the intake manifold.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1242292 posted 04/12/18 01:48 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
So it sounds like really, if I found that rare Evo one or two engine, I am really only getting 4 bigger injectors and a better turbo. Everything else is the same. Am I correct?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1242293 posted 04/12/18 01:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Not an EVO motor (those were 7-bolt and had different mounts (I believe). He is talking about the GVR4 Evolution, a model that Japan got with bigger injectors and a bigger turbo



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1242297 posted 04/12/18 04:34 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting G:

Would be 91 and 92. Yes look at the injectors as well as the text on the intake manifold.




Evolution VR-4 was released mid way through 1990 on the 5M/T models, the auto models still had the regular engine. Just to clarify - early engines have 'CYCLONE' while the Evolution engines have 'ECI-MULTI' (despite still using a cyclone type manifold). I believe the auto models post the mid '90 facelift also have 'ECI-MULTI' despite not having an Evolution spec motor.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1242299 posted 04/12/18 06:28 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Quoting scottinalaska:

So it sounds like really, if I found that rare Evo one or two engine, I am really only getting 4 bigger injectors and a better turbo. Everything else is the same. Am I correct?




Yes, basically. If you ever plan to use larger injectors or a more modern turbo get whatever engine is cleanest and has the lowest mileage. IMO



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