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Re: #418/2000 restore & mod thread.


turbowop
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1227726 posted 05/06/16 01:02 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Vinyl intrigues me. I kinda wanna do something reversible with my car just to play around with the looks a little.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1227728 posted 05/06/16 05:52 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Looking good, can't wait to see it finished!



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855/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1227731 posted 05/06/16 08:09 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Does look good. I am amazed at how nice the remaining paint on the car shined after the wet sanding.



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ApexHunter
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1951/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1227732 posted 05/06/16 09:32 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Nice updates!!

So far, i've got real high hopes.



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2003 Evo
2001 Prelude
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NateCrisman
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418/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1227734 posted 05/06/16 10:55 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      


I made a stupid rookie mistake and poked a hole in the sheet for the rear drivers door....so I decided to try and not waste material, and gave it a go at trying to wrap some small complex pieces.:








Overall my quality level is abysmal. There are little wrinkles in the corners, and relief cuts that didn't cover 100%. Ill likely end up having to re-do the doglegs on the "inner wheel well" surface. but that area probably should be black anyway, not silver. And I don't have a technique to get the vinyl to settle into the "chrome strip" channel and stick there with sharp edges, so I cut that out on the front fender molding. But man I hate those stupid chrome strips, so Im going to have mike figure that out if it's possible to wrap all the door moldings and such in one piece without the chrome cut out.



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NateCrisman
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1227735 posted 05/06/16 11:01 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting turbowop:

Vinyl intrigues me. I kinda wanna do something reversible with my car just to play around with the looks a little.




If you wrap #1051 yellow and put Performance Partout on it....Ill buy the material!



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NateCrisman
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1227736 posted 05/06/16 11:05 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting transparentdsm:

How much did it cost for the vinyl? You may make me do my galant till I can afford a real paint job.




Looks like retail cost on 60" x 45ft roll of vinyl in this metallic gloss type is about $300-$350 depending on brand/quality/mfg. You'll spend $100 minimum on supplies and tools.....couple gallons of ally, boxes of tack cloth and lint free wipe rags, mask tape, knife-less tape, razor blades, propane for torch, squeegees and felt tips. Plus mike has all these tools that are turning out to be really helpful....this glove that makes your hand slide on vinyl, felt lined magnets for hanging it, cutting tools, special shaped/different thickness squeegees to tuck under moldings.

But just like paint...the cost is in the labor. And trust me....this is just as much work as a basic paint job I think. BBUUUUUTTTT It's DIY which I love.



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NateCrisman
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1227738 posted 05/06/16 11:09 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting iceman69510:

Does look good. I am amazed at how nice the remaining paint on the car shined after the wet sanding.




The paint shined up fine in the areas that there WAS paint and clear coat left....sides/vertical surfaces. But the top of the car (hood, roof, pillars, trunk, wing) had no clear coat left on them at all, and the center of the roof and hood and a spot on the trunk....literally...had primer showing because the black paint layer had been baked off by FL sun too. There was no saving this paint job with wet sanding, that's certain.

some of the pics are a little deceiving too, like the one outside..the car is wet..I literally washed it in the rain both times. (been pouring in NJ all week) when the car dries off, it looks hideous!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1227740 posted 05/06/16 12:13 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yeah, I understand what you are saying. My belize green 92 is about the same on the hood and roof. Hood is burned through to primer like yours in one area. I'm looking to repaint them, and kind of hoping I can wet sand/buff some of the rest of the car to look fairly nice.



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NateCrisman
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1227742 posted 05/06/16 01:56 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
knocked out a rear door this afternoon before kids get home from school. Did much better in the door handle pocket this time, although I did have to make an overlap above it when I came up with too much stretched material. ehhh...by the time I get to the 5th door, Ill be good enough.





I have some wrinkles inside the door jab between the doors (where you'll never look, but whatever). That's after trying to make 2 sharp 90* angles on a countered edge. I don't think this is possible in one single sheet anyway. to do it spotless wrinkle free.



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turbohf
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613/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1227804 posted 05/07/16 09:10 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
two ideas for the chrome.
1) pull it out and put black in there.
2) bondo it up, then apply wrap over it all for smooth look.


looking good. really makes me consider doing this too. you say its worth the time/effort/money for average GVR4 owner?



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NateCrisman
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418/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1227806 posted 05/07/16 09:26 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Some more pics of the process:

Door handles are going to be wrapped silver. (this one is just done temporary to see how it looks..theses need sealant glue under to keep it from peeling with use)


Drivers' 1/4 is done


Roof is done with no wrinkles, bubbles, or blemishes.


Pass side needs the rear 1/4 done..BUT!!!! big butt......I was finally able to do my 4th door MINT...no blemishes! woooot (BIL went back and fixed my fuckups on prior doors for me..he rules)



So....moving along.


Mike basically said those chrome strips because of the deep recess....have to be cut out and done with a second piece. so...,now that I know the procedure...Sunday Im going to make the attempt on all 4 door covers, the remaining front fender molding, and the two long ground effects. Granted..Mother's Day...I have lots of cooking to do, so might not have that much time.



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GVR4 #431/1000: [email protected]+
GVR4 #139/1000: T3T4: [email protected] - 14B: [email protected] (sold)

www.PerformancePartout.com

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NateCrisman
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1227830 posted 05/08/16 09:18 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting turbohf:

two ideas for the chrome.
1) pull it out and put black in there.
2) bondo it up, then apply wrap over it all for smooth look.


looking good. really makes me consider doing this too. you say its worth the time/effort/money for average GVR4 owner?




Thanks. The chrome strip can be covered with silver wrap...that's not a problem...it just can't be done in one continuous piece for the whole panel. I have to wrap the panel..then "cut out a window" for the chrome strip, then tuck the "window edges" under the chrome edges. Then cut out a little strip of scrap and cover the chrome strip..maybe using some edge sealer since it's so small and the chrome is kinda "slippery".

I really didn't want to get into body filler and any actual body repair/work. The car has 1 significant dent under the drivers sail light (pushed in like a full inch), has probably 7-9 significant dings that you see looking at them straight on, and honestly 15-20 little dings, depressions, and flats/bends that you can see when you start sighting down the panels or inspecting things up close. Body work becomes like a vicious cycle where you fix the major dent....then the medium dings start to stand out, ....then you fix those....now you've gone that far..might as well smooth all the little dings. Then pretty soon the car is completely sanded to metal on every panel, has bondo everywhere, and still isn't perfect. I just don't want to even start on that.



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GVR4 #139/1000: T3T4: [email protected] - 14B: [email protected] (sold)

www.PerformancePartout.com

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NateCrisman
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418/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1227860 posted 05/08/16 09:22 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well...I did get the two larger front door moldings done tonight while watching a movie with the kiddies:

They came out pretty much perfect






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www.PerformancePartout.com

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NateCrisman
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418/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1227873 posted 05/09/16 07:50 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      



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GVR4 #139/1000: T3T4: [email protected] - 14B: [email protected] (sold)

www.PerformancePartout.com

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undrpressure23
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402/1000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1227880 posted 05/09/16 11:13 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Nate,nice work man. Got me thinking of going that route too vs paint.

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NateCrisman
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418/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1228127 posted 05/14/16 08:32 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Im busting my ass on the car this weekend to get it done...here's what I have left to do:
  • Wrap pass rear 1/4 (pita)
  • Wrap rear bumper cover (major pita)
  • Fab brackets and mount JDM-YO rear pumper cover
  • Wrap front bumper cover (incredibly hard major pita)
  • snag more door molding clips from shop to install pass side door caps and rear doglegs
  • develop a method of getting those #$%^@ metal clips that hold the thumb button of the rear door handles on!!!
  • Swap door glass from three "parts car" doors into my existing doors (already nicely tinted)
  • Install rear 1/4 windows from "parts car"...nicely tinted....BONUS: GalantVR4.org stickers already in place.
  • Wrap black over tail light backing plate and over chrome edges o the 92 tails...then install tail lights
  • Install JDM-YO foglights and wire up the turn signals.
  • Install wing (after brother-in-law returns it to me pre wrapped)
  • Wrap door window frames in black
  • Install F&R freshly painted glass trim
  • Install freshly painted cowl cover, wiper arms, and new blades.
  • Decide what Grill Im going to use..clean/paint/wrap & install
  • go buy new windshield wash pissers...Im thinking LED light up chrome skulls
  • Design & Print vinyl logos/lettering for Performance Partout to slather over a fresh clean car

OK...maybe next weekend Ill actually be completely finished :banged:



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GVR4 #431/1000: [email protected]+
GVR4 #139/1000: T3T4: [email protected] - 14B: [email protected] (sold)

www.PerformancePartout.com


Edited by NateCrisman (05/14/16 08:35 AM)

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NateCrisman
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418/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1228173 posted 05/15/16 08:04 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well, I certainly didn't get it completed this weekend, but I did make some progress. Didn't have any help from my pro-wrapping family, so I had to march on solo. Basically, I got the rear 1/4 and front bumper done along with some "install" work..but the front bumper took me like 4 hours today!.

Here's a few iphone pics. Seriously...I WILL get it outside this week for real photos, and get it up to shop to install different suspension and wheels.

Brother in law did the door handles for me..they are all installed nice now.


I wrapped the rear 1/4 myself, and did a fairly reasonable quality job with only a few tiny wrinkles back by the tail light.


Fresh tinted 1/4 windows went on with .org stickers.


Up close of the tiny wrinkles and an edge burr that I just couldn't get done


I tackled the front bumper myself as well...and had to break it up into 5 individual sections due to how many complex curves there are...and still needed to "patch spots" and show seams in shitty areas. It's first on my "to be re-done someday" when my skills are better. For now...it's presentable.


As it sits sunday night:



GVR4 #418/2000: [email protected] - pump/alky -
GVR4 #431/1000: [email protected]+
GVR4 #139/1000: T3T4: [email protected] - 14B: [email protected] (sold)

www.PerformancePartout.com


Edited by NateCrisman (05/15/16 08:31 PM)

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Yohler
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1228178 posted 05/15/16 09:56 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Really coming together. I think a lot of the little things that stick out like a sore thumb to you would go unnoticed by most. Regardless, it looks like a million bucks compared to what you started with. I've seen those org stickers on a few cars, does someone sell them?

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turbohf
anyone even read this?
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1228183 posted 05/16/16 01:14 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
wow, that really does look good. i spent a little time looking my car over. most seemed like it might be reasonable to wrap, but the bumpers, front in particular (US models) seemed like it would be a bitch and be best to do in at least 2 parts.

you have the bumper off the car when wrapping?



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1991 GVR4 #613
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NateCrisman
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1228185 posted 05/16/16 08:13 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting Yohler:

Really coming together. I think a lot of the little things that stick out like a sore thumb to you would go unnoticed by most. Regardless, it looks like a million bucks compared to what you started with. I've seen those org stickers on a few cars, does someone sell them?




exactly. I know where every wrinkle is, and they stick out to me. One of the advantages of wrap is that I can always go back and re-do an area or panel if it motivates me in the future. Im on the lookout for a non-rusted and no-ding rear pass door to swap on. That door has a lot of dings and the worst wrinkles. Had I painted the car...you don't really have the option to swap body parts later or re-do the paint in areas at your whim.

My gaol is not perfection. I have no illusions of grandeur that the car is going to be a show car or pristine example. The goal of this wrap is to turn an ugly duck into a "10ft car".....from 10ft away this car will look like a million bucks. In photos, you can't see any of the minor imperfections in the wrap. This car is going to get lettering for my business, and be the "logo car" for my business advertising. No-one is going to see a few 1/8" long wrinkles on T-shirts, business cards, Facebook and ebay banners, and forum signature pics. hahaha

It will turn heads at the racetrack, and frankly, Im going to best unless I mention it, vast majority of people just taking a quick look in the pits are going to assume it was just painted.



Quoting turbohf:

wow, that really does look good. i spent a little time looking my car over. most seemed like it might be reasonable to wrap, but the bumpers, front in particular (US models) seemed like it would be a bitch and be best to do in at least 2 parts. You have the bumper off the car when wrapping?




The front bumper was done on the car mounted and has quite a few seams in obvious places on the top, that I "could have" done in one big piece, but require cutting an 8+ft long strip off the roll to go wheel well to wheel well . I was so frustrated with the front bumper after a failed attempt on saturday night where I wasted an 8ft section that I just kinda said 'F-it" and pieced it together with leftover cuttings from the doors and 1/4's.

It seemed kinda foolish to spend another 8ft long chunk off the roll (like say $60 of material) just to likely wrinkle and screw it up anyway. might as well screw up using scraps and see how it goes. When my skills get better and Im not in a rush to finish I'll redo it

and frankly..it was only 52* in the garage yesterday. The material is supposed to work best at 73-75*...you would be amazed at how crunchy and brittle it is at 50* vs how smooth and pliable/stretchy it is when warm. Due to temp, Im constantly having to use heat gun to warm the material to relax the wrinkles...so Im working one handed all the time which leads to more wrinkles and bunches. When the material is cooler..it doesn't squeegee out smooth, it tends to stick harder and bunch up.

For a part as hard as the front bumper and for as novice as I am...I need advantages like correct temps and both hands, not disadvantages of crunchy material, stress, and one hand. I'll re-do the bumper with only one hidden seam the first time I lower the car too much and scrub the bumper on a parking decider and tear up the wrap. hahaha Then ill also sand down all the old paint imperfections and chips that show through.



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GVR4 #431/1000: [email protected]+
GVR4 #139/1000: T3T4: [email protected] - 14B: [email protected] (sold)

www.PerformancePartout.com


Edited by NateCrisman (05/16/16 08:23 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1228316 posted 05/20/16 10:14 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
So close to being done...this week has been hecktic busy and I just didn't have much time to spend on 418. But, I pulled a late one last night till 2am cranking out the rear bumper on the living room floor:

Satin black vinyl for the door window frames:


Rear bumper is ready to mount; gotta make some brackets for the sides unless I can find a set of "JDM yo" side brackets.


Updated to do list:
  • Fab brackets and mount JDM-YO rear pumper cover
  • Swap door glass from three "parts car" doors into my existing doors (already nicely tinted)
  • Wrap black over tail light backing plate and over chrome edges o the 92 tails...then install tail lights
  • Install JDM-YO foglights and wire up the turn signals.
  • Install wing (after brother-in-law returns it to me pre wrapped)
  • Install rear freshly painted glass trim
  • Decide what Grill Im going to use..clean/paint/wrap & install
  • go buy new windshield wash pissers...Im thinking LED light up chrome skulls
  • Design & Print vinyl logos/lettering for Performance Partout to slather over a fresh clean car



On another note, I picked up a 1gB parts car that has a nice set of Enkei 17x7 silver RPO2 wheels, 5lug hubs, 4bolt rear that will be the likely donner for #418's running gear. Obviously gotta swap the snow tires out for regular street meats and do a complete cleaning on those wheels...but they will look nice and are reasonably light at about 16.5-17lb each.




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GVR4 #431/1000: [email protected]+
GVR4 #139/1000: T3T4: [email protected] - 14B: [email protected] (sold)

www.PerformancePartout.com


Edited by NateCrisman (05/20/16 10:32 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1228340 posted 05/20/16 12:57 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
car is looking really good Nate. im really considering vinyl wrapping mine. i also have those rims and i love the way they look on the car.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1228342 posted 05/20/16 01:05 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
How durable is this stuff, and what's the lifespan?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1228383 posted 05/20/16 09:49 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
It looks really good Nate, thousand times better. I like silver on these cars.



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