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1991 gvr4 ABS stuff, please add to this...


blacksheep
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110015 posted 03/07/04 08:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
1) ABS computer in the trunk (near antenna)
2) ABS sensor under center console (near the shifter)
3) ABS unit under the hood
4) ABS wheel sensors
5) Pull the fuses from the engine bay (Thanks, Hertz)
6) There's also a relay on the driver's side behind the panel below the hood release (thanks, dsmsleeper)

<will add more as mentioned>

Making a list of things I plan on pulling out...

Things I will need:

1)Actually, 92 AWD DSM's came with the smaller brakes. You'll need the 93-94 AWD, non-ABS valve.
(thanks, Jon - JoeC)
2)The Galant GSX front brake lines work perfectly under the hood. The rear ones do not need to be changed. You will not be able to find these new so you will have to find them in a yard.(Thanks, Jon)


Lets keep this post simple, no big discussions on proportioning valves and if ABS is good or bad, yadda yadda yadda. This is for archiving purposes.

There is some sort of sensor on the left corner of the trunk..is this ABS or fuel related? Not quite sure what this thing is...

Thanks!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110016 posted 03/07/04 09:06 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Pull the fuses from the engine bay.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110017 posted 03/07/04 10:11 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
No new brake lines needed. Cut and flare the line that comes from the front passenger side right where it goes next to the prop valve. Thats where you'll connect it. For the driver's side, take the line thats connected to the caliper and bend it away from the ABS module, towards the master cylinder. You can carefully do all the bending by hand.

What I suggest you do is get a prop valve and the two brake lines that connect it to the MC, from a parts or junk car.

Mark

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110018 posted 03/07/04 10:17 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Doesn't the ABS have some type of stepper motor? Is that your unidentified thing in the trunk?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110019 posted 03/07/04 10:25 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
can you post pictures KC? I want to pull my same stuff.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110020 posted 03/07/04 11:18 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
If you want to go to the extreme you could remove the rear sensor gears from the shafts. Don’t know about the fronts. You might have put that under wheel sensors though.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110021 posted 03/07/04 11:47 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
So what do you do to get rid of the "Anti Lock" light in the guage? The previous owner disabled the abs but i don't know how he did it.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110022 posted 03/08/04 12:02 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Remove the bulb from the cluster. (Add that to your list KC, will save you about 5g)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110023 posted 03/08/04 08:51 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thanks all, I will post pics.

Pivvay - I will post pics this weekend as I dont have time during the week to do this. I planned on making seat measurements as well.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110024 posted 03/08/04 09:01 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
thanks KC. I have seat measurements as well so i'd like to compare them. I'm not sure my car is "correct" since it was in an accident.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110025 posted 03/08/04 09:34 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
There is some sort of sensor on the left corner of the trunk..is this ABS or fuel related? Not quite sure what this thing is...

1991 AWD/ABS galants had 2 G-sensors:1 under center console and 1 in the trunk.
1992 AWD/ABS galants have just 1 under center console.

Another difference between 91 and 92 to add

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110026 posted 03/08/04 10:13 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thanks, Cruce! I shall pull that sucka out as well...

One concern, Pulling this stuff out shouldnt affect the datalogger should it ? [Idea]

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110027 posted 03/08/04 11:55 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
No...and if you pull out the right stuff, you won't have to pull the ABS light bulb either.

Mark

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110028 posted 03/08/04 11:57 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Mark - what do you mean, Sir? Please let me in on what I need to pull. I figured pulling the brain would be enough? Thanks!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110029 posted 03/08/04 12:01 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
There's also a relay on the driver's side behind the panel below the hood release.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110030 posted 03/08/04 12:05 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
* Use a prop valve from a 92-94 Eclipse GSX as it is came with big brakes.
* The Galant GSX front brake lines work perfectly under the hood. The rear ones do not need to be changed. You will not be able to find these new so you will have to find them in a yard.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110031 posted 03/08/04 12:11 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
quote:
If you want to go to the extreme you could remove the rear sensor gears from the shafts. Don’t know about the fronts. You might have put that under wheel sensors though.

Ryan - Since I dunno much, is this something in the rear diff (you mention Shafts) [Confused]

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110032 posted 03/08/04 12:45 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I think he means the "gear" that the wheel sensor reads to determine the wheel speed. I think it can be pulled off the hub (or whatever it's pressed onto).

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110033 posted 03/08/04 01:07 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Ok, I read too far into that. Yep, I meant ABS sensors when I said that. Thanks Ryan and GVR-4!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110034 posted 03/08/04 01:24 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
quote:
Originally posted by blacksheep:

1)Use a prop valve from a 92-94 Eclipse GSX as it is came with big brakes. (thanks, Jon)

Actually, 92 AWD DSM's came with the smaller brakes. You'll need the 93-94 AWD, non-ABS valve.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110035 posted 03/08/04 02:04 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I think it was something like cars produced after May of 1992. But, to be safe, I will say 93. Thanks!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110036 posted 03/08/04 02:15 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Once power via fuse is removed, the ABS light shouldn't light. I removed my fuses long before I ever removed the actual ABS. I also disconnected all the plugs at the ABS pump.

I used a prop valve from a 92 AWD TEL. You can use pretty much any non abs prop valve and it'll be better than stock. Get the two brake lines that go with from it to the MC from the same car. If you really want to change out front brake lines (going to calipers), go for it, but its a waste of time...

Mark

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110037 posted 03/08/04 02:48 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
When I checked with the dealer, the front lines are NLA for non-ABS, so either a junkyard or custom lines would be the way to go.

Else, braided SS lines for the super bling effect [Applause]

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110038 posted 03/08/04 02:53 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
i want the junkyard prop and lines. Someone go pull them so I can buy them off you so I don't have to track them down myself <----lazy

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 110039 posted 03/08/04 03:41 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Lots of people are parting out 1gs. The only trick is getting them to carefully box the two brake lines such that they aren't bent.

And KC, the front brake lines I'm talking about are the hard brake lines. Read what I said above, again...foo. [Smile]

Mark

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