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pull engine with or without tranny?


yeti
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1069568 posted 06/01/12 02:52 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Going to be pulling motor tommarow, just wondering whats more common.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1069631 posted 06/01/12 03:29 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
with. Still dont have a service manual, do you?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1069635 posted 06/01/12 03:46 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Pull engine WITH tranny. Stabbing the trans is a PITA, but I have to think it's much easier when you don't have to get everything lined up mid-air.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1069638 posted 06/01/12 03:51 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I've always dropped the transmission out the bottom, and pulled the engine out the top. Installation has been reverse of removal.

It's just easier for me to get the mounts and such lined up (and not snag on anything) when there's less to deal with at once.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1069640 posted 06/01/12 03:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
^I've never done it like that, I've always dropped both right out of the bottom.... Then again, I have lifts and all of the other tools to make that my easiest option. I'd still tend to think taking it out together would be the best bet..... I dunno, call me crazy...

-Jake



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yeti
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1069653 posted 06/01/12 04:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
^HAH i wish..
I will be pulling together since it took me two days to get the tranny back on under my camaro(only about a foot and a half of the ground, if that)

And i have the part in the manual for the engine in print but rest is online

Also how should i tie the engine up,intake and exhaust?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1069666 posted 06/01/12 04:56 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting 5OF2k:

^I've never done it like that, I've always dropped both right out of the bottom.... Then again, I have lifts and all of the other tools to make that my easiest option.

-Jake




This is the only way to go if you have a lift available, and is how i've done every car when i worked as a tech at various different places (including the mitsu dealership).



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1069669 posted 06/01/12 05:02 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting yeti:

^HAH i wish..
I will be pulling together since it took me two days to get the tranny back on under my camaro(only about a foot and a half of the ground, if that)

And i have the part in the manual for the engine in print but rest is online

Also how should i tie the engine up,intake and exhaust?




What do you mean "tie the engine up" ?

There are standard lift points on the engine for removing the entire assembly. If you're lacking the one on the exhaust manifold, or do not wish to use it, it's common practice to use the bolts on the large L bracket engine mount as a lift point (above the PS pump). Just bolt down one end of the chain there, and the other end to the bracket between the head and throttle body/intake mani.

In my experience, if you're going to tear the whole engine down, it's easiest to just take the head and manifolds off together, first thing, while it's still all bolted into the vehicle. That way you can just use old head bolts to lift the assembly out.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1069745 posted 06/02/12 02:09 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Now thats another thought.

Everything is done, only thing left are mounts i will take the head off then pull the engine.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1069750 posted 06/02/12 02:22 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Was just thinking about it i was planning on holding cam sprockets and breaking crank/oil pump sprocket off..
So kinda dont know if i should take head off.
Is that my best bet on breaking those free,or would there be another way with the head off.


And my plan is to pull this motor and build the fresh rotating assembly/fresh head (but have to assemble the valvetrain first) then drop that back in the car ALL TOMARROW...wish me luck



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Edited by yeti (06/02/12 02:30 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1069918 posted 06/03/12 02:14 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
You can do either way..With trans attached youll have to angle the trans lower than the engine for clearance.If your take the trans off its a straight up simple drop in..Then you can do a Polish spec trans install which takes 5 minutes.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1070134 posted 06/04/12 02:58 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting yeti:

Was just thinking about it i was planning on holding cam sprockets and breaking crank/oil pump sprocket off..
So kinda dont know if i should take head off.
Is that my best bet on breaking those free,or would there be another way with the head off.





I just use an impact gun. I've done it without one, and it's kind of a PITA. I put something in between the crank counterweights and the block, then use a breaker bar to get flywheel and pulley bolts loose.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1070301 posted 06/05/12 02:54 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Whats polish spec?

And i busted it free using the vents in my flywheel...



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1070311 posted 06/05/12 04:07 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Quoting mitsuturbo:

Quoting yeti:

Was just thinking about it i was planning on holding cam sprockets and breaking crank/oil pump sprocket off..
So kinda dont know if I should take head off.
Is that my best bet on breaking those free,or would there be another way with the head off.





I just use an impact gun. I've done it without one, and it's kind of a PITA. I put something in between the crank counterweights and the block, then use a breaker bar to get flywheel and pulley bolts loose.




Yea used to have the same problem its kind of a pain without a impact gun you should invest in one of theses there like 30 to 40 bucks at harbor and work great I break fly wheel bolts,crank pulley bolts with out a problem



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