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16g turbo and super 20g


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1001488 posted 06/25/11 12:42 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Will the hotside of a 16g fit on the super 20g? Help...

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1001490 posted 06/25/11 12:53 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Is it a td05 or a td06 20g? If its a td05, itll fit.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1001491 posted 06/25/11 12:56 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
it also depends on wat kind of 16g you have.... it will fit ONLY in B16g and E316g... NOT in S16g



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1001537 posted 06/25/11 10:53 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
^^ Why do you say that? They'll all fit as long as it's a td05h hotside.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1001539 posted 06/25/11 11:07 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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i was talking about this one.... i think they were saying that if you use a S16G hotside that the new 20gwheel will hit the back plate and will need to be machined...



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1001568 posted 06/25/11 02:08 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
That isn't what a hotside is. The hotside is the turbine housing. As long as a turbo has a tdo5h turbine, you can run it with any td05h turbine housing. A 14b, small 16g, big 16g, evo 3 16g, 18g, 20g, can all use the same turbine housing, as long as they run the td05h turbine.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1001573 posted 06/25/11 02:36 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
By using a small 16g hotside, Since its still a tdo5h hotside, Cant you pair it with a 20g tdo5 wheel and comp housing?

dsmtuners thread on conversion

and by using these pieces.

20g tdo5h comp wheel and comp housing.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1001626 posted 06/25/11 06:48 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
my understanding is you can only use a 20G compressor wheel on the 'super back' turbo cores/cartridges, ie small and big 16G. The 14B and earlier TD05H's don't have the extra space machined from the core.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1001630 posted 06/25/11 07:01 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
also I've ordered the 20G wheel, machined Evo III compressor housing and genuine MHI rebuild kit from kando-dynamic aka kinugawa turbo and found their service very quick, however the Evo III compressor housing is obviously a copy, but the quality looks to be just as good as the original compressor housing. I am unsure of the origin of the compressor wheel, but I assume it isn't genuine MHI.

As my original VR-4 turbo is a 'big 16G' using the 'super back' style wheel, the 20G wheel simply swapped in place. You will not be able to fit a 20G (or even a big 16G wheel) on a 14B turbo core/cartridge, UNLESS you machine out the core to suit the larger diameter/shape of the underside of the big 16G/20G wheels. I am not sure about the small 16G which is why I haven't mentioned it yet - to be honest I don't think I've ever seen a small 16G turbo, all the Evolution VR-4s, Lancer Evo1/2/3 I have come across have big 16G turbos. I think perhaps the small 16G is an American thing rather than on JDM vehicles. I would have assumed being a 16G they too would be a 'super back' wheel, but those links above are suggesting otherwise.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1001677 posted 06/26/11 12:35 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Again people, this is a hotside. And a td05h hotside clamps onto any td05h turbo.


For the people converting turbo's. The big 16g, evo3 16g, 18g, and 20g, all have 68mm exducers. So any bearing housing/backplate, for those turbo's can be used for any other of the group, with just a compressor housing change.

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