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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 465294 posted 04/17/07 11:30 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I've decided that for the 5-6 times per summer that I actually use my AC, that I can stand to lose it. I figure all my GOOD AC parts should go to one of you guys in the south or midwest that actually need them for 6 months straight.

I'm hoping that losing the condenser will free up more cooling air to the radiator and help my persistent cooling issues. The weight loss will benifit during lapping.

I just looked through the 10 pages of How-To's twice and didn't see an AC Delete thread. I could have sworn there was one. I figure it's a pretty straightforward removal. The only problems I can see are getting the compressor out (from underneath I guess) and the condensor.

I'm pulling my radiator in a week or two to replace a bad sensor, and was hoping that I could yank the condensor at the same time. Please tell that it comes out from the rear, and not from the front (don't want to move my oil cooler out of the way, or remove the bumper) Anyone know?

Also if there's a good thread on this subject, a link would be appreciated. I thought Colin (sleepyvr4) posted a How-To, but I can't find it. Thanks.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 465374 posted 04/17/07 02:24 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Condensor comes out from between the radiator and the radiator support. The rest is basically as straight forward as you're thinking it is. IIRC the compressor comes out from the top or bottom but I think that the t-case might need to come out if you're going through the bottom.

John



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 465379 posted 04/17/07 02:35 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I got mine out the top, with the stock intake manifold in place.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 465397 posted 04/17/07 03:06 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
the condensor comes right out with the radiator out. the compressor comes right out the top. The lines are realy easy to follow and pull out. Pretty easy process.

Just dont let the refidgerent out into the air...lol

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 465699 posted 04/18/07 07:19 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
don't forget the ac condensor behind the glove box...

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 465718 posted 04/18/07 07:49 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Oh yeah, I just took my condensor out ^^^^ what does everybody use to plug that hole? Is there something from the factory that is supposed to go there or something???



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 465723 posted 04/18/07 07:56 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
JNZ sells the plug that came on non AC cars.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 465756 posted 04/18/07 09:19 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
So...

With the radiator out, the condensor comes out on the engine side? And the compressor will come out from either the top of bottom; whichever is easier. I'll vacate the garage when I pollute the environment during system discharge. I just filled it with the new stuff last spring.

I'll need to get a plug for when the thing under the dash is pulled...

I've already got an interested party in TX for parts, so please refrain from the "I want" PMs. Thanks.

I actually broke something in my drivetrain last night doing something stupid. So I'm pissed at the car (and myself) right now, which is sitting in my garage on jackstands. I've stolen my wife's car for a few days until I can cool off and figure out what I broke. F-ing Galant...



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 465848 posted 04/18/07 11:21 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

don't forget the ac condensor behind the glove box...




That's the evaporator.

Firewall plugs are shown in section 55-430 of CAPS. There are three given. You may have to measure to get the right ones, or find something local at NAPA or something.


Edited by iceman69510 (04/18/07 11:25 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 465853 posted 04/18/07 11:30 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I talked to Eric at JNZ and he seemed to know what I was talking about and said they've got the plugs in stock.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 465860 posted 04/18/07 11:40 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Is that a significant weight savings (the evaporator)?



I know it's a foreign idea for most of us here, but you might want to try taking the car off jackstands.
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 465868 posted 04/18/07 11:49 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
There are 3 total boxes under the dash. One is the heater core and the other 2 are the fan/evap. Those 2 on my bathroom scale were about 13lbs. So just pulling one would likely be 6ish lbs.



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Edited by Polish (04/18/07 11:49 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 465871 posted 04/18/07 11:53 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
OK because I think mine is still in, but all the underhood AC stuff is gone.



I know it's a foreign idea for most of us here, but you might want to try taking the car off jackstands.
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 465877 posted 04/18/07 12:05 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'm gonna guess a total weight savings of around 35+ lbs based on what I've read. That's a mighty big dump you'd have to take to get the same results at the track I can weigh all this stuff once I get it out.

Can anyone explain the process for getting the thing under the dash out, or is it pretty straightforward? Where is it exactly? I know there's a fan and filter-type thingy behind the glovebox (I've cleaned it out before), but I thought that was for the heater, which I definitely want to keep.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 465878 posted 04/18/07 12:05 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I wouldn't bother because the you have to fab up something to connect the fan to the heater core. You can just gut out the evap thing but it hardly seems worth it. Especially if the car ever gets put in someones hands that wants AC. They can just bolt the under hood stuff in and go.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 465881 posted 04/18/07 12:10 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I don't really give a rat about future owners, if I ever even decide to sell it.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 465883 posted 04/18/07 12:14 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
If you remove the evap in some cars you will eliminate the heat as it connects to the heater core and operates also as a duct. I had that problem in my car and had to fabricate a dummy evap unit that was empty.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 465885 posted 04/18/07 12:16 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thanks Alex.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 465887 posted 04/18/07 12:17 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I just said that.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 465998 posted 04/18/07 02:38 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Consider it confirmation of your valuable input.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 466079 posted 04/18/07 05:18 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Woow, you guys are taking AC out, as i am trying to get mine IN! There are models that came with ac, but if youre deleting it, you could do what the owned did to me galant, he/she/it simply removed evap box, remove 3 metal clips, take evap out, and return the now (super) light box back in. Heater funstionality restored! The previous owner used some sticky tape to cover the holes left over from AC. Althoiugh i dont think tape should be used on them; as there is probably a factory solution.


Which reminds me..if anyone has a GOOD AC front condensor fan, and one of those ac temp switches that mount on thermostat housing LMK!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 466142 posted 04/18/07 07:36 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
If you are lucky, you can find a none AC galant in the junkyard and find an OEM piece that goes where the AC core would be. I've done it on my Eclipse and it is completely factory.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 466166 posted 04/18/07 08:07 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Ah, good idea. Off to the junkyard in the next week...after all the local ones dry out for a few days. I'm sure they're mud-central this week.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 466194 posted 04/18/07 08:44 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
for the Non-AC plug if you remove your evap look on parts.com under Galant NON-AC... Its an $11 part.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 466385 posted 04/19/07 09:59 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
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I don't really give a rat about future owners, if I ever even decide to sell it.




Is that any way to treat KC?

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