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Re: New guy from Mass with a 4G63 Ram 50 and now a GVR4


4g63mightymax
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1207848 posted 05/06/15 08:23 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I got the car to idle last night!

This is what it looked like in the dark.




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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1207853 posted 05/06/15 09:49 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      



89 RAIDER V6 5speed
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4g63mightymax
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1208183 posted 05/12/15 08:00 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
It turns out that 1G DSM and GVR4 subframe connectors are different.






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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1208184 posted 05/12/15 08:07 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Are they angled different?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1208209 posted 05/12/15 10:49 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yes, they are the same shape and size, but the GVR4's are bent up higher in the front by an inch or two. Laying on the floor, the GVR4's are taller. Maybe I will take another pic with a tape measure... for science!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1208210 posted 05/12/15 10:55 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Cool, I sure did not know that they different, I wonder if a 1g would still work considering the difference..



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91 578/2000 sold
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87 4RUNNER LS400 SWAP SOLD:(

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1208217 posted 05/12/15 12:46 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Wow. I have to check mine. Another reason my drivetrain may make noise.

Edit: yep I got the wrong one installed. If it's not touching anything is there a difference? None of the mounts attach directly to this. Is the front piece this connects to different?



7 1G DSM's now a GGSX build.


Edited by tektic (05/12/15 01:02 PM)

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4g63mightymax
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1208221 posted 05/12/15 02:06 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I think the 1G ones could possibly attach if you force them into place with some long bolts, or if they are bent slightly upward at the front. I do have a third one that looks like it could have been a 1G cross bar at some point that was bent with some serious force. It is way too ugly to put on this car though. lol.

Also - I don't *think that the front bar with the motor mount is different between the 1G and GVR4, but I may pull that out again to check. If I do, I will most definitely do some caparisons for fun, because I have a pile of them.



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Edited by 4g63mightymax (05/12/15 02:09 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1208251 posted 05/13/15 06:44 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
You will probably find that the front bar is a bit different. Since the VR4 uses a different engine bracket for the front motor mount, they are at least different as far as where the front roll stop mounts to it. Although, it would be interesting if they are the same as to where they mount to the frame. If so, then that item would be an option for those rebuilding a VR4 that can't come across the front engine bracket. Swap in a DSM front bar, or a Bullfab unit and use the stock AWD bracket from an AWD and the front is good!

I eagerly await this as my son also has a VR4, and his motor is wedged in pretty good at the tin=ming side bracket because the front engine bracket is from a DSM.



Thom
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1208272 posted 05/13/15 10:25 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Last night, I sandblasted, painted, and measured the cross bars that we talked about yesterday. I have some more pictures that I will get up here in a bit. The front subframe with the front engine mount - I have three of them to compare. The one in my car right now is from a 1G DSM (90% sure), and I'm using the 344 engine bracket. I have two more of these with mounts attached to them. One is definitely GVR4, and the other - I have no idea. I'll compare them as soon as I get a chance. Hopefully in the next couple days! (Maybe tonight)



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1209005 posted 05/26/15 08:36 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
It idles pretty decently now...

click

I also sandblasted and painted the headlight brackets. So the 93 lights will be on soon.




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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1209053 posted 05/27/15 07:19 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Headlights are on. Grille is not really.



What's left?
- Make a better exhaust
- Attach wires to lights, horns, fans
- Sandblast & paint grille brace thingy
- Get it to idle lower than 1000 rpm
- Get more lug nuts, 2 per wheel is not enough
- Install window trim
- Maybe some other stuff



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1209359 posted 06/02/15 07:55 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1210527 posted 06/19/15 12:32 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
So - I registered this today. There is still some trim that isn't attached here and there, but I'm pretty sure it's drivable otherwise. We'll see. Once I work out any drivability bugs it may or may not have, I'll sell it and start a new project! I can't wait!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1210592 posted 06/20/15 06:57 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Very nice

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1210754 posted 06/23/15 07:41 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well, I drove the car for the first time around the block last night. No major surprises, and it made it home. So I guess that's good!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1210761 posted 06/23/15 08:29 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
That's a good start!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1210765 posted 06/23/15 09:35 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Very good.!! car came together great, i still cant get over it starting out as a RHD when you got it and now its this!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1210766 posted 06/23/15 09:59 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I think if anyone else attempting to do what he did, they would've gave up a long ass time ago!



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90 GALANT GSX SOLD
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91 578/2000 sold
92 417/1000 DIED
87 4RUNNER LS400 SWAP SOLD:(

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1210912 posted 06/25/15 01:22 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thank you guys! I appreciate that a few of you followed along through the whole process. There is still a bit more to do, but I'm really not sure where the car will take me next. I don't have a real use for it unfortunately, and I want to start some new projects in a bad way. I may end up fixing the one rust spot that the car still has just so I can say its "finished". If I do, I will obviously post the pics for your entertainment.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1210939 posted 06/25/15 08:02 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I've loved watching this car come together. Thanks for sharing, it looks great!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1210997 posted 06/26/15 05:57 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Congrats Jeremy! I'm still amazed by your perseverance in seeing this giant job through. Well done!!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1211210 posted 06/30/15 11:14 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
great work Jeremy.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1211265 posted 07/01/15 10:44 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thank you guys, I truly appreciate it. It's looking more like I will have to fix one more area of it because people are scared of it. So I may have more updates soon.

I'm not sure this car will ever be as nice as yours Tom, but I'm trying like heck!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1212582 posted 07/17/15 07:32 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Nobody wants it, huh? Okay, I guess I'll keep cutting then. Anyways, onward with the metalwork.

I began by removing parts and breaking off pieces that were not going to survive this process. It seems that at some point in time, the left rear quarter panel was replaced and not seam-sealed properly where it meets the rear window. This caused a water leak. This water leak existed for a very very long time, and ate away at more metal than I thought. This is how I started to fix it.








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