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Re: big power help with 565


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 776408 posted 04/01/09 11:25 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'll post up some updates after I've dyno'd. It runs excellent right now with the V2 and 3G MAS. Got 26mpg on the last tank and the car pulls like an animal. I'm pretty happy with the setup. V3 should just smooth things out a little more and hopefully extract a little more power/spool with a 4" intake and no MAS.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 776410 posted 04/01/09 11:28 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
what are you using to convert to speed density? I didn't realize you could eliminate the MAF already. I was going just use the MAF Clamp after about 300 hz.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 776413 posted 04/01/09 11:31 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
When the V3 gets here we'll eliminate the MAF, run a MAP sensor and AIT sensor. Read up on the link board...

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 776416 posted 04/01/09 11:36 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
i didn't realize you can run full speed density already. That is beautiful.
So your telling me that the hours I've spent compensating the MAF were pointless. Boo!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 777419 posted 04/04/09 08:00 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I just ordered my kiggly girdle and soon I am going to get my gorden rods and my pistons soon...I will keep you posted. When my motor locked up my crank seezed with it. I hope that it is okay or I my have to get it turned or another.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 777512 posted 04/05/09 10:39 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Do not cut your crank. It will make your crank weak.

Instead, find a good condition, un-cut crank and use that.

Where you are going to be making big power, you also want a certain amount of reliability. Cutting your crank will not afford you that.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 777513 posted 04/05/09 11:12 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
yeah I know I hope that it is okay if not I want t see if I can get polished....but I might have to get another....Hey question??? some people are running non turbo blocks, what are the pros and con of that..I know that you don't have o squirters but what else..



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 777515 posted 04/05/09 11:29 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Slugsgomoo talked about this earlier in the week in the IRC channel. The ring lands on the NA pistons are too close to the dome of the piston and have weaker ring lands unsuitable for turbo applications.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 777517 posted 04/05/09 11:43 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
cool thanks for the heads up...I will keep my turbo block and run it...



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 777518 posted 04/05/09 11:47 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
But, the N/T blocks are pretty much identical, aside from the 10.0:1 N/A pistons w/ weak lands.

The Cranks are the same, and the fact that it has no squirters might be an advantage depending on what you are doing with the engine.

I Blocked the squirters off in my last engine to maintain high oil pressure.

YMMV.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 777522 posted 04/05/09 12:09 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
well I plan on just going .20 over and a girdle gorden alum rods and 9 to 1 pistons..I was going to get one thi week and get everything done as far as the machine work..Oil pressue is key with dsm's, that was one of the key reasons and n/a blocks don't get as much abuse as turbo blocks



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 779483 posted 04/09/09 11:03 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
got my girdle and I am looking at this oil pump here is the link click



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 779541 posted 04/10/09 07:08 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
John Shepherd runs 8's with an OEM oil pump. If its good enough for him...

I had a brand new OEM case/gears with the B/S removed, and the oil squirters removed, and I got 80 psi at 3000rpm. This is what John shepherd ran on his 8 second setup.

You needs more GT4082 Parts!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 779550 posted 04/10/09 08:33 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
well that is why I posted that...John tracks his car and that is it no nonthing else..no street time mybe he drives it to work maybe...I am going for somthing different and I don't want to drop pressure...



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 779576 posted 04/10/09 09:36 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Stock pumps will do 60 psi max, so at 3000 RPM 80 psi is way strong, and it goes up linearly by RPM.

That's 100psi at redline on: OEM pump, Removed B/S and oil squirters.

Enough pressure for ya?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 779649 posted 04/10/09 12:16 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
You might ask Brianawd what he thinks of Groden rods



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 780001 posted 04/11/09 09:01 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
hey today I went out and tried to turn over the vr4 and to my suprise it turn, I had the jumper cables on but it turned just a little I am going to take the starter off and test you never know...



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 829040 posted 09/12/09 08:14 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Update on parts that I have gotten for 565.....
Magnus intake manifold with nit and meth bungs welded
1600cc injector
weisco 1400 HD pistons
jay racing alternator relocation
Hks timing belt
tranny is getting ready to be sent off....
gt4088

Parts I will get at x-mas
Jmf top mount manifold
twin 38mm waste gates
An lines and fittings with jmf breather
maybe Rpf1's



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874675 posted 02/16/10 10:28 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well I figured that I would just update this thread. 565 is in pieces. My money is getting short on this build. I have the block is cleaned and bored and decked. I decided on Map Ultimate duty connecting rods, I am in need of a virgin crank. I kind of want a eagle crank but they are kind of expensive. I posted a pick of my manifold a couple weeks ago. The build will be done in the next couple months or weeks depending on my money.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874767 posted 02/16/10 12:46 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Some people have said their Eagle cranks had poor tolerances when compared to a used Mitsubishi 6-bolt crank.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 876326 posted 02/22/10 10:42 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
update list on parts.I ordered my rods from Maperformance on friday and I also ordered A1 H11 head studs, I also am getting my turbo manifold this week as well. Parts I am waiting on is Felpro MLS head gasket magnus intake gasket, (2)tial 38mm waste gates, Dsmlink V3 and Kelford cams(280's),new Oem oil pump,and Jay racing an fitting for water pump. Maybe this week I will get some stuff ordered. I will let you guys know what comes in and maybe I will steal camera and take some pic of all this stuff. Can't wait



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 877588 posted 02/25/10 09:51 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Update: Wow I got the rods and they are beautiful and the H11 head studs sick. I am still waiting on the mani. I took the interior out and I am going to be getting a cage in the next 2 weeks 7 point or 8 point. That is what the guy said he would do for scca reg and drag racing. Should be nice



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 878475 posted 03/01/10 10:23 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Update got the manifold I am in the process of taking the dash out(really don't want to do!!!!) Putting the front sus. back on so I can toe it to the guy doing the cage. Going to order in the next couple of weeks. Two 38mm waste gates(v-ban)Head gasket(felpro MLS), fuel pump(undecided), Dsm link V3,and going through the tranny. Mo money hopefully no problems



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 878883 posted 03/03/10 12:08 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Mo' Money, Mo' Problems.

The dash comes out pretty easy, its the reinstall that you are really going to hate.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 878926 posted 03/03/10 08:26 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
soon we will find out. Got to get the movin on puttin the front suspension back on. Then I can get the cage. Ohhh yeahhhhh



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