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iceman69510
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1223809 posted 02/06/16 08:12 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
If you have some spare pieces, keep them for me. I hope to do my 89 belt install this next spring/summer, but not sure if I have all the interior trim or not.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1223824 posted 02/06/16 11:09 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'm not sure if I've ever seen the manual belt conversion done right...Until now. Nice job, Ryan.

How did the lower portion turn out where the retractors are?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1223845 posted 02/06/16 02:40 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thanks guys.

Brett,
The lower portion of the B-pillar is a little bit different than the '89 model, but everything still bolts up correctly down there. The provisions are in the exact right place they need to be. Angle of the retractor ends up being perfect and the belts operate the way they should.
Being that the belts were over 25 years old when I installed them, they definitely needed some cleaning and freshening up. I disassembled most of the setup and gave the belt a good cleaning with woolite (the same way I did my Recaro seats for the Cyborg in my other thread).
I have taken the belts apart in my jeep and civic in the past when they start retracting slowly and have ended up with great results on both. I knew it would be a good idea to do it on the vr4 to prevent having to do the job twice.

The only tell-tale sign that the belts aren't original to the car are the holes left behind in the carpet near the B-pillar behind the front seats and the slits in the center console where the old shoulder belts originated. You really don't notice it unless you go looking for it though. Maybe one day I'll cut some carpet out of a Mitsu in the bone yard and make a patch to go under the carpet. Hasn't bothered me enough in 3 years to even think about it though until now when I'm writing a review to give you guys an accurate description of what's involved. Will probably remain as is

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1223847 posted 02/06/16 02:43 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting iceman69510:

If you have some spare pieces, keep them for me. I hope to do my 89 belt install this next spring/summer, but not sure if I have all the interior trim or not.




I'll have to pull out my other set to see what extra stuff I really have. I know I don't have another set of the headliner trim pieces unfortunately. I have broke quite a few of these trying to remove them from scrapped cars. Very brittle 90% of the time.



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1280- 2.3, FP 35R, E85, etc.
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1223849 posted 02/06/16 03:26 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Up next is the wideband install. I went with the Innovate LC-1 for a few reasons. I have used a few different widebands over the years and have installed all different brands in customers cars. I've had more luck with these Innovate units over others that like to eat sensors, etc. The second reason was that the Innovate LC-1 with DB gauge is now available with a green LED display.


I replaced the aftermarket head unit that came in the car with one from an Evo 9. It's a very basic CD player, but most importantly looks factory (because it is!) and fits my needs for the car.
Seeing that this radio (like every other radio out there beside the stock unit from '91) has a clock display on it, the factory clock on the dash was a bit redundant.

Being a bit OCD, we can't have that!

Soooo, lets pull the clock out, open it up, remove the guts, and then stuff the DB gauge from the wideband inside. Thanks to a thread from a few years back for putting these thoughts in my head.

Here we have the clock and DB gauge both disassembled:


Next I started cutting the rear of the clock housing until the gauge fit nice and flush up against the front display window of the clock. This was a trial and error process that took some time to get perfect.


Test fitting the new display:


Now to trim up the back housing of the clock so it will snap back into place and hold the DB gauge tightly:


Nice and snug in its new home with plenty of room for the wiring harness to plug in:


Bench testing with a 12v adapter made for just such purposes:


Installed and looking good:


The green Innovate gauge is really a spot on match for the stock vr4 dash lighting. I couldn't be happier with the way it turned out.
I do often get the "what's up with your clock?" question from clueless passengers but some don't even notice anything funny going on. Car guys love it when they notice it and I've had a few want details on how I programmed an old clock to do that.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1223869 posted 02/06/16 06:49 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
i did my aem in mine like this and everyone that sees it loves it. one of my favorite interior changes for visual affect.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1223874 posted 02/06/16 07:33 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I did something similar when I had 1813, but yours turned out much better. Great work as always!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1226003 posted 03/28/16 11:01 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Looks like Brett and I are on the same page.

I spent some time over the weekend installed some fresh parts. Finally had time to install the FP HTA68 I picked up last fall. I gasket matched and ported the turbo, manifold and O2 housing a couple weeks back and have just been waiting on some install parts from JNZ.


New lower heat shield and lower radiator hose:


Coolant return line from turbo:


Copper washers, etc:


'90 turbo waterpipe is NLA. Even though this one is in great shape, I coated it with Rust Bullet to make sure it stays that way:


Noticed something on this ported 2g O2 housing I've had for a while:


Looks like it was ported back in '97. Nice port job and lots of miles on it. No sign of cracks, etc. Still good to go!

The reason for all the work. The little FP HTA68:


O2 housing, lines, and heat shield installed. Did require a slight trim on the heat shield due to minor case differences in the FP exhaust housing compared to the MHI unit:


This is as far as I got with it last night.


Noticed that one of the manifold to head studs is pulling out of the head so I will have to repair that before it goes back together.

Hope to get it all buttoned up next weekend and start tuning. I'm interested to see how this setup compares to the bastard 20g I've been running.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1226584 posted 04/10/16 01:47 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Just some quick pics of the Walbro 450 install. Sending unit came out with no issue. Was a little dirty on top of the tank, but the lack of rust made it a quick and easy job.

Old Walbro 255HP. Was still running just fine, but the new pump is sealed and designed for running E85.



26 year old sender still in great shape!


Tank is nice and tidy too:


Walbro 450. Didn't snap an installed pic apparently. Had to get a little creative with the mounting but still a pretty straightforward install.


And the only casualty of the whole ordeal. Had it all back together and buttoned up, then noticed I forgot to put the small clamp back on the vent line. Trying to force the new hose back off I ended up snapping the nipple off this valve.



BTW, the HTA68 is up and running great. First impressions on 93 oct: very similar to my bastard td05 20g, but has quite a bit more top end. Spool seems about the same, possibly a tad slower. Still need to compare logs side by side.
The HTA68 is capable of slightly higher max boost. Was 33ish psi for the 20g and almost 36 psi for the 68.

Up next is to max it out on E85. Stay Tuned!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1236858 posted 05/01/17 07:00 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Wow, it's been a year since an update! Not much has changed until recently. I have some refreshing projects underway that I will elaborate on in the coming weeks. Slow progress, but still making time for it!

Decided to pull the engine after thinking I hurt the engine one night last fall. I was working on my 93 oct tune after being on E85 primarily for a while and doing some pulls. Something let loose and sounded like a spun rod bearing. After dropping the pan and inspecting, everything seemed fine down there, but I noticed the timing belt was off 2 teeth and compression was down. Anyway, finally pulled the engine and found some bent valves, etc, but the bottom end looks pretty good. My plan was to throw a new head on and tidy up the bay a bit and be back in action.

After talking with the wife, she decided that she may want to drive the Mirage a bit once it gets put back together. I've had big plans for that car for a while. 2.3 block on the stand, worked 2g head, kelfords, FP 35R, etc, etc. Well, after thinking it over and now having both cars in pieces, I decided build the 2.3/Kelford cams/35R setup for the VR4 and just use the built 2.0 w/ 2g head & 68HTA for the Mirage

So, big change of plans for the car overall and a blank canvas to start with.

Couple teaser pics until I get some more time to do work.

Before:


After:




It was my first time laying base/clear, and it turned out pretty well for a driveway job. I took Brett's advice and used some rust bullet in the old battery area, and some behind the fenders even though it was spotless back there Rust free southern car FTW! More to come soon.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1237203 posted 05/15/17 10:50 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Made a little progress in the last couple weeks.

Painted the block, installed new freeze plugs and test fitted the head:


Oil pump/ front case ready to go:


Progress:


Cams:


Decided to save the red cam gears for the Cyborg Finally putting these adjustables to good use. Degreeing the Kelford 272s.


Freshened up the trans a bit while it was out.
Before:


Much better!
After!


New heart in its home, and test fitting the FP 35R setup.
Very happy with the way the engine bay paint turned out:


Keeping the guys at JNZ tuning on their toes!


Making progress just about daily so I'll try to take some more pics and keep this updated.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1237215 posted 05/16/17 11:25 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Nice progress! Its looking really good.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1237233 posted 05/17/17 08:26 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Amazing progress man!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1237245 posted 05/17/17 07:45 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Looks awesome. So no 68HTA then?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1237248 posted 05/17/17 10:07 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Plans have changed a bit since the wife decided she wants to drive the Cyborg a bit once I put it back together. So it's getting the 68HTA along with the built 2.0L from the VR4 and a new 2g head with evo III intake mani. This 2.3L & 35R setup was originally for the Cyborg. When parts sit too long waiting to be assembled it's easy to change your mind about what goes where!



Ryan C.
1908- sold and missed.
1280- 2.3, FP 35R, E85, etc.
1135- 100% stock - 88k miles
'93 Mirage hatch- 4g63, AWD, etc (hoarding for build)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1237249 posted 05/17/17 10:09 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting KiNgMaRtY:

Nice progress! Its looking really good.




Quoting 4Grim:

Amazing progress man!




Thanks guys! Slowly but surely



Ryan C.
1908- sold and missed.
1280- 2.3, FP 35R, E85, etc.
1135- 100% stock - 88k miles
'93 Mirage hatch- 4g63, AWD, etc (hoarding for build)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1237986 posted 06/14/17 12:39 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Some of the progress pics that happened along the way.

New shifter cables:



Custom shifter bushings for the 3KGT shifter setup:



One of these liked to rattle a bit at idle. Swapped them out for a new set before painting the bay:



Exhaust wrap and turbo diaper in place:



Wrinkle finish for the compressor housing:



Wastegate in place and dump tube wrapped:



Wrapped the downpipe while I was at at:



Rebuilt throttlebody with some custom touches :



Thanks to by buddy Jimmy for the machine work on the shifter bushings and for removing the FIAV junk on the throttlebody!



Ryan C.
1908- sold and missed.
1280- 2.3, FP 35R, E85, etc.
1135- 100% stock - 88k miles
'93 Mirage hatch- 4g63, AWD, etc (hoarding for build)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1237995 posted 06/14/17 06:01 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Great thread. Ended up going to page 1 and reading it all.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1237998 posted 06/14/17 08:41 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I recently replaced my hood hinges as well. I figured out a way to fix them though after I had them uninstalled. Just install a 5/8" c clip in the joint and it takes up the slack. spray a little oil or grease and they are as good as new.





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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1238177 posted 06/26/17 08:21 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Good to know, G. I'll keep that in mind if I ever have issues in the future.



Ryan C.
1908- sold and missed.
1280- 2.3, FP 35R, E85, etc.
1135- 100% stock - 88k miles
'93 Mirage hatch- 4g63, AWD, etc (hoarding for build)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1239626 posted 09/19/17 05:36 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well, the car has been up and running for almost 3 months now. New setup runs great and has an entirely different feel than the 2.0/hta68 combo did.
I'm still in the process of finishing up things, but have taken some time to enjoy the car a big and give it a low boost, baseline tune so far. At around 19 psi on 93 oct, it pulls as hard as the hta68 maxed out on 32 psi. It's nice and safe the way it is now but I'm itching to dump some of my old friend E85 in and see what a 35R in a bolt-on FP housing can really do.

Here are a few pictures of how it sits currently. Still some oragizational stuff to do, but all in all I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out so far.








Ryan C.
1908- sold and missed.
1280- 2.3, FP 35R, E85, etc.
1135- 100% stock - 88k miles
'93 Mirage hatch- 4g63, AWD, etc (hoarding for build)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1239860 posted 10/08/17 12:09 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
48 is missing her buddy

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1239861 posted 10/08/17 02:05 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well, her buddy is looking rough in that pic!

That was a "before" pic of the door and window trim refreshing project. KoR32t4g took the lead on this one and did most of the masking and prep work. It wasn't a quick process, but nothing worthwhile is! The end results were a night and day difference. This little touch should have been done a long time ago!

Masking overkill, check!


After removing tape


Still working


New stickers to rep the .org


I'll get some better pics once I get it cleaned up.

We hope to be up to visit sometime soon!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1239866 posted 10/08/17 06:43 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Night and day difference. I can't wait for you guys to come up and you better bring the car!


Edited by KoR32t4g (10/08/17 06:45 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1239878 posted 10/10/17 08:58 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
What did you paint the door & window trim with?



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