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Cracked Bell Housing... advice


abikepeddler
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235499 posted 02/24/17 05:18 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well I have been having odd issues with the clutch in our Galant VR-4. I eventually notice one of the clutch slave cylinder mounting holes has broken clean off. I then notice a massive crack running all the way from the slave cyclinder up to the top of what I believe to be the bell housing. I have spent the last hour reading all the various posts about this particular issue and some deal with this by welding up the bell housing but looking at the 10 - 12 inch split I do not think this is something that can be welded. (I'm not even sure I it is the bell housing I am looking at... I think it is... The clutch slave cyl mounts to it...) So I am looking for some advice... hate to trash the car because it is a really nice specimen. It's worth saving. Is my best course of action to buy a replacement transmission? If so, where is a good source? Any advice appreciated.




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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235500 posted 02/24/17 05:41 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Buying a replacement transmission is probably the easiest solution, unless you or a friend can tear the transmission down to replace just the bellhousing. It could be welded though, if you have anyone nearby good with cast aluminum. Needs to be removed from the car either way.



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abikepeddler
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235501 posted 02/24/17 06:29 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thanks for the reply. That is what I am thinking as well but figured others smarter then I might have another suggestion. Any suggestions as to a good source for a new transmission? Online discount Mitsu parts suppliers have them for around $2600. I am located in San Diego...
Anyone know of a San Diego based mechanic that is good with these cars?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235526 posted 02/26/17 11:50 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
2600 that's a lot it almost sounds like your in aftermarket territory at that price. Then again prices on everything have gone way up, you ever here of Loya Built?
He's in S.D. I think plus he may have some spare transmissions.

Good luck!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235539 posted 02/27/17 08:15 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'm not sure if Jacks Transmissions or Shepherd deal with these older cars anymore, but may possibly have parts lying around.

TRE in Michigan still does though. When I had mine rebuilt by Jon (TRE) he replace my bell housing from a parts transmission he had around. Mind you, this was a while ago. He can do a rebuild for less than that $2600 figure.



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abikepeddler
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235595 posted 02/28/17 09:59 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I have never heard of Loya Built. I found their Facebook page but Facebook is soooo 2016... I don't do FB. I will have to figure out some way to get a hold of them. I hate to trash this really nice VR-4 over a cracked bell housing. If I could repair the car and even make it better while in the process then I will spend the money.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235596 posted 02/28/17 10:12 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Any pics of the vr4? How much would you sell for?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235603 posted 03/01/17 08:19 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I have at least a couple bell-housings in my garage. I break a lot of transmissions. If you just want to replace that, PM me.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235607 posted 03/01/17 09:28 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting abikepeddler:

I hate to trash this really nice VR-4 over a cracked bell housing. If I could repair the car and even make it better while in the process then I will spend the money.




Absolutely no reason to trash the car over this. Transmission repair is normal business for these cars (as the poster above mentioned )



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235632 posted 03/02/17 12:19 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
^^^ Exactly.



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abikepeddler
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235635 posted 03/02/17 01:43 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yes, agreed the car is worth saving but I also can't dump $4000 - $5000 into the installation of a new transmission into this car either. I need to find a "reasonable" solution. I am trying to find contact info for the previously mentioned Loya Built but I can't find contact info for them except for their Facebook page... I don't do Facebook. If anyone has any contact info for them or any other suggestions as to where best to source a tranny, please let me know. Either that or this car gets sold "as-is" and I move on.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235637 posted 03/02/17 02:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      

Here are a couple recent pics of the car...




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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235639 posted 03/02/17 02:41 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
WHOA

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235640 posted 03/02/17 03:33 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
PM me a price as is with the cracked trans.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235661 posted 03/03/17 11:31 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
There are a couple of people in the San Diego area that would be probably be willing to help you out. There is a guy in Ramona who rallys them so he might have a spare, but i can't remember his name. If I was still in the area, I would. Road race engineering might have something, but they are up in LA.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235662 posted 03/03/17 11:36 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Also, Facebook is an invaluable asset for owning these cars as most parts get posted on there. Socal DSM page click or socal gvr4 click

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235685 posted 03/05/17 07:23 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Very clean belize green. Wish mine was half as clean. Trannies are a quick fix on these cars. Do not sell it. You will regret it.



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abikepeddler
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235710 posted 03/06/17 03:28 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thank you everyone for you input and guidance on this repair. Much appreciated.

In early 1991 I drove my father to my local Mitsubishi dealer in my then 8 month old 1990 Eclipse GSX and had him place a deposit on a brand new 1991 Galant VR-4 (#1337). My dad drove that car for a few years before I purchased it from him. I then got stupid and sold it in 1999 with 10,000 miles on the odometer to a guy named Andy Hall. So my regrets already run VERY deep. I just recently found out that #1337 burned down in a structure fire while being serviced at a mechanics business. So when #1609 popped up I grabbed it and it has been a great car and I want to keep it...

I am just hoping that removing the old bell housing is straight forward. I am very experienced at wrenching on cars but this car intimidates me a bit.

So while I have everything apart I want to tackle any other issues. Likely will replace the clutch and flywheel (lighter). I hear ACT clutches and flywheels are good. Also am going to replace the lowering springs on this car because they are WAY to stiff. Car is upset by mid corner bumps. Does not make handling predictable.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235715 posted 03/06/17 08:43 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Hey, I'm going to be in San Diego at the end of March/beginning of April on a small vacation. I'm pretty knowledgeable with these cars and have torn mine and few few friends cars apart and back together multiple times.. I'm also a career mechanic. I'd be willing to come spend some time one day helping you out or giving you some pointers while I'm in town. If you would like a hand!



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abikepeddler
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235720 posted 03/06/17 11:08 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      

HighRPM666... Wow. That is just too nice of you to offer your time and expertise. I wouldn't dare accept simply because you are on vacation and I wouldn't want you to miss the thrill of San Deigo's epic traffic and 72 degree/sunny weather... every... single... day. (It's like Groundhog Day here.) But if IF IF we happen to have the car apart at the time you are in the area I might have you take a moment to take a look at the car just to make sure things look OK. My biggest concern is replacing the bell housing as it looks like I'd be breaking down the transmission a good amount. I'm tempted to take it to a tranny shop and pay them to do the bell housing surgery.

You can see the entire trans in this Tom's Turbo Garage video at the 1:33min mark. Toms' Turbo Garage VR-4 Transmission

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235733 posted 03/07/17 06:53 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Haha.. I've been to San Diego too many times! I'm coming because one of my Fiance's friends is having festivities revolving around their upcoming wedding. I'm looking for any excuse not to join in on the "heaploads" of girly time fun. Id much rather travel half way across the country and maybe spend an afternoon helping out another gvr4 enthusiast than listen to 12 wined up ticking hormone timebombs argue about the color of the table runners!



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I found the anti-lag.

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abikepeddler
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1235743 posted 03/08/17 06:04 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
That's hilarious. What? Not interested in tasting 6 different samples of wedding cake?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1236036 posted 03/23/17 03:45 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Wheres POLISH when you need him a 12 pack and 90 seconds he'd have it changed. search for polish trans video its classic. Man learn to get dirty a trans replacement on these cars is a normal thing if you treat her like the bitch she is its a yearly task.



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