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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 810696 posted 07/14/09 07:58 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Stage 1 Weight Reduction:

Basic GVR4 stock parts (including engine) to eliminate/modify to reduce weight without compromising safety, emissions, driveability, or anything else "normal"...

1. ABS to non-abs - Click here for how to...

2. Power Steering to 1.8 manual rack, or simply remove all components

3. 4WS (new rear DSM subframe or block off)

4. Cruise Control to DSM 1.8 cable

5. Power Antenna to stubby or shaved/plugged

6. Power Seatbelt to 3 point harness conversion or simply stock lap belt

7. Sounds deadening material removal

8. Power mirror to standard lightweight mirror conversion

9. Aluminum driveshaft(s) installed

10. Stock to Carbon fiber/lightweight hood, fenders, trunklid

11. Stock to lightweight wheels

12. Foglight removal

13. Balance shaft removal

14. Eliminate stock heat shields

15. EGR elimination

16. Lightweight battery

17. Alarm system removal

18. Tool kit, jack and spare tire

19. Stock to lightweight seat conversion

20. Race/Lightweight steering wheel

21. Sunroof elimination (lexan etc)

22. Lightweight flywheel install

23. Intake manifold bracket removal

24. Stock speaker amplifier removal (stereo remains)

25. Wiring harnesses hacked of useless wires

26. Lightweight exhaust (titanium?)

27. Eliminate spoiler

28. Aluminum transfer case install (???)

29. Dashboard hacking/gutting

30. Aluminum/Scirocco Radiator install

31. '92 Center tail light section swap

32. Suspension - save about 25lbs converting to coilovers

33. Under Dashboard Mat elimination

34. Driver's side Motor mount hack





Stage 2 Weight Reduction:

Advanced weight reduction techniques that are "quote unquote" legal/acceptable to some who would still consider the car a daily driver. Many of these cross well over into Stage 3 to some...



1. A/C & all components

2. Heater core/lines

3. Emissions & all related

4. Aluminum bumper install or bumper elimination (some people do this on DD)

5. Timing Cover(s) elimination

6. Stereo and all components removed

7. Remove door crashbars

8. Exhaust down pipe only

9. Eliminate glovebox

10. Stock gas tank to fuel cell



Stage 3 Weight Reduction:

Purely for race intentions - these modifications do not appear daily driver mode at all and compromise everything a daily driver is...


1. Remove all seats except driver's seat

2. Remove interior panels, console, carpet, trim etc.

3. Dashboard removal

4. Lexan to replace all windows

5. Eliminate exhaust



Edited by sleepyvr4 (09/12/09 06:32 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 810725 posted 07/14/09 10:12 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Factory amplifier in trunk (if 1991)



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 810727 posted 07/14/09 10:19 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
1) Interior Wiring harness modification - Remove all ABS, door sensors, auto belt wiring, stereo wiring, heat, AC, relays etc. You will be surprised. I removed about 10 lbs from my evo doing that. I am sure you can do engine bay harness too...

2) Fuel tank - run fuel cell!

3) Dash support beam/ door support beams

How "race" do you want it?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 810740 posted 07/14/09 11:11 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
how do you remove the heater core? Thats in the dash correct? so would you have to remove the entire dash before it can be done?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 810753 posted 07/14/09 11:38 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Pretty sure dash has to come off although I havent done it in a gvr4, personally. You have to undo the two coolant lines running in/out the car on the firewall. Same for AC if you are pulling Evap.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 810780 posted 07/14/09 01:26 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Not sure about heater core - may want to keep if car overheats and turning on heater fan is only option...

Balance shafts gotta go

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 810877 posted 07/14/09 07:21 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Personally I'd keep the timing covers. No sense in letting a rock ruin your day.

I'd add the stock water/oil cooler as well as the water lines going to the turbo. It cleans things up a bunch.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 810884 posted 07/14/09 07:51 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
if u want to remove the heater core, u have to remove the entire dash. personally i would just leave it in unless its just a track car



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 810887 posted 07/14/09 07:57 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
One thing I would NOT eliminate.....A daily driver.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 810945 posted 07/14/09 11:36 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Front seats with some milk crates



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 810979 posted 07/15/09 05:27 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting CarRacer:

Personally I'd keep the timing covers. No sense in letting a rock ruin your day.






Myself (for about a year on 1746) as well as about 3 dsm friends have been running w/o timing covers for years. One friend rallied a 1g awd auto on several occasions and never had any problems...

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 810987 posted 07/15/09 07:19 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
'89 underdash and glovebox will take a little weight off.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 811047 posted 07/15/09 11:38 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting sleepyvr4:

Quoting CarRacer:

Personally I'd keep the timing covers. No sense in letting a rock ruin your day.






Myself (for about a year on 1746) as well as about 3 dsm friends have been running w/o timing covers for years. One friend rallied a 1g awd auto on several occasions and never had any problems...




What do you gain out of doing this though??? Besides being able to change the belt without having to take it off.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 811050 posted 07/15/09 11:43 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
You can get close to 40lbs eliminating the sunroof too...and its at the TOP of the car where you don't want weight...haha ZAP

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 811091 posted 07/15/09 12:39 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      





Besides being able to change the belt without having to take it off.




Exactly. Change that baby when you change your plugs and oil lol...

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 811108 posted 07/15/09 12:58 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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both threads are really good. maybe someone can come up with a list and put things in order of what should be done first. things that are free and things that no one would mind removing. then things for race cars and then things that cost money... also things that are dangerous to remove/chnage.

after that list is compiled another thread can be started as maybe a sticky? i might be interested in starting this list when i get some extra time. hopefully someone else can start it too.

what you guys think?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 811242 posted 07/15/09 06:49 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
that's what we can compile here on this thread -

how about 3 sections:

1. basic crap to remove that does not affect driveability or emission laws or safety etc...

2. advanced weight reduction techniques that are "quote unquote" legal/acceptable to some who would still consider daily driver

3. all out race purpose weight reduction mods


I'll compile it up top on this thread...

feedback appreciated - I'll keep adding ideas...

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 811255 posted 07/15/09 07:42 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
feel free to PM me new ideas - discrepancies can be posted in the thread for debate...

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 811269 posted 07/15/09 08:08 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
sounds good to me...i want to come up with more sections to make it more specific maybe after we have a lot of stuff.

like

-safety(removing bumper supports, jack/spare tire etc)
-luxury(cruise, AC, heater core, some interior, PS, etc)
-things you can buy(bumpers, cf hood, cf trunk, flywheel, driveshaft, wheels, seets, under dash, balance shaft elim, glove box, antenna, seat belts/harness, etc)
-emissions(egr,charcoal canister, etc)
-things that prob only a track car would do that would change the car alot(lexon windows, as much interior as possible, etc)

there is absolutely nothing wrong with yours its just that i like to be very specific and this is the type of list i had in mind. it helps so that people know what list they can ignore and what list to look at.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 811271 posted 07/15/09 08:11 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
my bad man i didnt see your list . i like that stage idea. i say you make both cause the stage idea is cool and then if you want to just look right to a specific category you can look at what i had for categorys. know what i'm saying? i def like both tho. nice list



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 811365 posted 07/16/09 01:11 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Aluminum radiator? How about switching out the the tail light center piece for one without lights in it (only the 92's?).

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 811372 posted 07/16/09 02:16 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Man, i just don't get it. I really don't get it. Why buy a rare VR4 if you are going to delete everything? Just buy a GSX or something, put a 4g63T in it, and delete everything from that one. The outcome is exactly thesame, the only difference is that you aren't fucking up another one from the 3000 rare vr4's....

Anyway, why would you seriously remove the timing covers?? They weigh almost nothing, and a small rock can be enough to f*ck everything up. Not everything is about weight, there's a bit of safety involved as well. Safety to keep your engine running, and what you are doing now is just dumb. If you didn't need timing covers, don't you think that they where never installed then? That's almost thesame as removing your valvecover for weight reduction....


Just my 0.02 $

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 811379 posted 07/16/09 05:19 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
If you remove the valve cover oil will spew everywhere

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 811381 posted 07/16/09 05:33 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting galantgti:

Man, i just don't get it. I really don't get it. Why buy a rare VR4 if you are going to delete everything? Just buy a GSX or something, put a 4g63T in it, and delete everything from that one. The outcome is exactly thesame, the only difference is that you aren't fucking up another one from the 3000 rare vr4's....

Anyway, why would you seriously remove the timing covers?? They weigh almost nothing, and a small rock can be enough to f*ck everything up. Not everything is about weight, there's a bit of safety involved as well. Safety to keep your engine running, and what you are doing now is just dumb. If you didn't need timing covers, don't you think that they where never installed then? That's almost thesame as removing your valvecover for weight reduction....


Just my 0.02 $




Listen gti - don't get your loincloth in a stiff over this - no one is saying that these mods have to be done. Some people have different interests with the car. This is simply a list of what one could do in order to reduce weight for obvious track reasons all while really making the car less leaky, replacing 20 year old parts, cleaning up that circus of an engine bay, etc. Tell you what - when I eliminate my timing cover I'll donate it to you - then you can put two on your car for added safety!!! You know people have actually had timing belts fail because the timing cover collected debris and eventually it ended up in the belt?!? That belt is moving so effin fast that the tiniest rock making contact with the belt is going to zing off into outer space - as opposed to actually traveling through a gear and the belt with the belt going 1,800rpm. We need a myth buster on this...

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 811383 posted 07/16/09 06:05 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Wasn't meant to be personal towards you


Quote:

Tell you what - when I eliminate my timing cover I'll donate it to you - then you can put two on your car for added safety!!!




You do that, always wanted a second timing cover. I'm going to glue it on the other one to make it stronger....

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