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'91-'93 3KGT VR4 4 pot Calipers Installed!


Garfield Wright
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305495 posted 02/11/06 10:31 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
This took me months to gather all the right parts to do the install. Would I recommend it to anyone? Yes & no.
What you need:

1) Brackets $129 steel & $119 T61 Aluminum - TunersNation.com This includes all the mounting hardwares.

2) 1 pair of '91-'93.5 3kgt vr4 front 4 piston calipers (updated 12/29/08 - Calipers TunersNation.com .

3) 1 pair of front rotors for a '94-'99 3KGT VR4. I can get plain factory rotors & pads or aftermarket drilled/slotted rotors & aftermarket performance pads. Just drop me a pm or go to TunersNation.com

4) Evo 8 wheels if you've gone 5 lug or 17x8 +38mm offset or 18x7.5 with a minimum of +18mm offset or be prepared to use wheel spacers. You can buy these at Pep Boys Auto Store. You may need 1/2" up to 3/4" spacers depending on your wheel's spoke design. You may be able to get away with smaller offset depending on your wheel's spoke design. If the spoke is around 1/2" thick you won't need spacers & should be able to get away with 42mm offset or be prepared to make an executive decision to grind down the calipers or the inside of the wheel's spoke to clear the calipers.

5) Brake fluid & new ss brake lines . Our OEM lines bolts up to the calipers so no need to replace unless you must. They come is several colors, are D.O.T Certified & made in the USA.

6) If you still have 4 lugs like I do, be prepared to line up the new 94-99 3kgt vr4 rotors with your stockers in order to re-drill them. You will need a 1/2" 'quality' bit & good drill for this. With the right bit, it doesn't take any time.

7) The dust shield will need to be trimmed starting right below the mounting tab for the ABS sensor cutting straight across to the other side. Be careful no to cut lines. Look at the pictures below for reference.

8) Since you're cutting off the mounting for the abs sensor line, you'll need a place to reattach them. The struts have a mounting area just above the strut lower top bracket.
9a) Forgot to mention that I had to shim the abs sensor with one washer.

9) Things to consider if you don't have the proper wheel to clear the calipers.
9a) You will need longer studs by at least 1/2".
9b) This is a good opportunity to determine if you want to stay 4 lug or switch to 5 lug.
9c) Upgrade suspension because your wheels will be sticking out more due to offset or wheel spacer.
9d) Replace worn out hubs, wheel bearings......
9e) Replace any torn boots while you have everything apart.
9f) Make sure when you purchase used calipers you ask for all the shims & brackets.
9g) The new 3kgt vr4 calipers are aluminum & hence lighter than our oems. The rotors however are much heavier. Unfortunately I didn't weigh any of these but pick them up & you'll see what I'm talking about.
Whenever I find the photos of the custom brackets I'll post them.





I haven't driven the car yet to 'test' the new setup. Here's a few pictures with the car finally back on the ground. Will have some better shots once I can clean up the garage & wash the car. Got one picture, car still dirty as I haven't had a chance to wash it yet.
Still haven't driven it hard yet (just enough to seat the pads). Still need to trim some fat off one wheel before I can strat thrashing it.




Added these pictures of Jermaine's car when he test fitted the calipers.







Edited by Garfield Wright (11/19/10 04:29 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305496 posted 02/11/06 10:35 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
some one F'in put this in the How to section! nice write up Garfield
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305509 posted 02/11/06 11:16 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thanks, Garfield, for the informative writeup. Peter (cobrajetguy) didn't know the things you found, because he borrowed the original brackets from the suspension off the old Mofugas racecar from me, and that suspension has not been installed on a car yet. It's very helpful to know what is needed to make all the parts work on the car. Thanks again.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305545 posted 02/12/06 06:18 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
What happens to your ABS?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305549 posted 02/12/06 06:51 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
nice write up garfield. the abs throw it in the garbage its worthless anyways on our cars. let me know how you like the stopping power. i need to find out the offset on my 17's i need new brakes up front and if those brackets are still available that can be an option. someone please move this to how to and also someone find the info on the brackets.

thanks.


Edited by HECDWS (02/12/06 06:52 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305552 posted 02/12/06 07:05 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Hec,

I'm sure your Konig's are pretty similar to mine in offset and space behind the wheel so I'm gonna guess that you can forget fitting the calipers under them. one of the members here measured the distance that the caliper sticks out from the rotor for me once and it was like twice as much as the space available behind my wheels. Your best bet would be to get a set of wheels designed to clear those calipers.

John



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305554 posted 02/12/06 07:19 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
yea only 40mm spacing according to konig. i guess ill stick to my original plan and just get all new stuff.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305555 posted 02/12/06 07:23 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Did you see the set up that ron is using?

LINK

I'm thinking about it myself except that I'd have the rotors drilled for 4 lug. My buddy Mike ('vette guy from the NY rally) works at a F-Body/Vette place so they may even have a set of those calipers lying around .

John



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305671 posted 02/12/06 02:39 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

Hec,
one of the members here measured the distance that the caliper sticks out from the rotor for me once and it was like twice as much as the space available behind my wheels.




Measurement from surface of '94-'99 3kgt vr4 rotor to outside of super duper wide caliper is 2.5".

Quote:

Your best bet would be to get a set of wheels designed to clear those calipers.

John




100% agreed here. I'm not going to tell anyone how much I tweaked my wheels to clear the calipers. It was that or grind down the calipers & I wasn't about to do that. Needles to say the wheels are no good now. I needed a reason to get new wheels anyway

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305676 posted 02/12/06 02:55 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Why didn't you just get some spacers rather than ruin your wheels?

How much do you think you have invested in this, including all the little stuff? Grand total?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305681 posted 02/12/06 03:07 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
You'd probably need at least a 1" spacer to fit these calipers with your average aftermarket wheels. Imagine how ridiculous the car would look with the wheels sticking out like that. Not to mention that the tires would be rubbing all the time.

John



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305684 posted 02/12/06 03:08 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I started to use the spacers, 2 per side = 1/2" of spacers. Needless to say, there wasn't much tread on the stud to securely fasten the lug nuts. Hence I use one spacer & trimmed some meat off the inside of the wheel spokes. The alternative would've been to get longer wheel studs but I needed the car back on the road today so I can get to & from work. So in the true spirit of us mitsu/dsm guys, I made it work . Not the best thing to do but like I said, I needed a reason to get new wheels
$ so far
Calipers = $170 shipped
Adaptor Brackets $90
Nuts & Bolts $10
Rotors = $100 shipped
Pads = $40
Brake Fluid = $5-6
Braker cleaner = $$5-10
$ to be spent
New wheels = ~$850 shipped
Tires = ~$350
Cheaper to go aftermarket brakes that doesnt require changing wheels (depending on what you have), using spacers & getting longer studs.
OEM bling - Priceless


Edited by Garfield Wright (09/18/06 10:40 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305688 posted 02/12/06 03:19 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
DAMN Garfield!!!1
Does this mean that 3000GT brake upgrades can fit Galants too??? hmmmmmm...

yours was the 1st VR4 I ever fell in love with. (was my Wallpaper when I was still looking for a Galant)
Now its even sweeter!

nice work and keep us posted about the performance or any problems you may encounter.


Edited by SGTdave (02/12/06 03:19 PM)

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Kidding me? I'm thinking about doing that upgrade on my Turbo Mirage!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305708 posted 02/12/06 04:20 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
what wheels did you decide on garfield?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305722 posted 02/12/06 04:42 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I know Mark & a few others are going to get royally pissed off very soon, but I'm planning on going with 5Ziggen FNO1R-C 17x8 35mm bronze or black with polished lip. I like the way the black w/polished lip looks but always wanted to go w/good quality bronze http://www.5zigenusa.com/w_fn01rc.html.



Jermaine told me the Evo 8 wheels clears these capilers also & are the same size & offset. He already test fitted the Evo 8's & will be running them until he can get some TE37's.


Edited by Garfield Wright (09/12/06 03:58 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305740 posted 02/12/06 05:48 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
That's what I'm getting too. These are going to be the most overused VR4 wheels.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305745 posted 02/12/06 06:10 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
It isn't like there are that many wide wheels available for the GVR4 that look nice in the 4x114.3 pattern. Garfield has a few more choices since he is 5 lug now.

Looks like a great setup. Take some pics when it is back on the ground.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305753 posted 02/12/06 06:22 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Tweakd, I'm still 4 lug.


Edited by Garfield Wright (02/12/06 06:24 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305762 posted 02/12/06 06:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Meh, no one will get pissed. Its the best option for the vr4 right now considering price, weight, size and look. Can't argue with that....I just give mark shit cause I can

Looks good garfield, would have been awesome to know how heavy those suckers were in comparison too though. Hurry up and drive it and let us know how they feel on the road! BTW, what tires are you gonna go with?


Edited by kartorium (02/12/06 06:57 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305774 posted 02/12/06 07:31 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I was bent on getting this thing done this weekend & didn't want to spend time on small stuff. Jermaine hasn't installed his yet so I can get the weights from him.
Not sure what tires I'm going with yet.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305794 posted 02/12/06 08:57 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

What happens to your ABS?




Nothing, it's still there.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305812 posted 02/12/06 09:40 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Very Very nice man



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 305837 posted 02/12/06 10:50 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
yeah man,mad props to you.I like the way my vr4 stops,but those calipers are serious shit.If they can stop the big cow 3si I'm sure they are ready for the track or mountainside on the gvr4.two thumbs up for you bro.






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