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Ebay Adjustable rear control arms


jas3113
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 144842 posted 10/20/04 10:12 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Finally, got in the rear adjustable control arms. These use a AFCO swage steel tube with a tie rod end on one side and a pivot ball on the other.

Now I check for Afco and they make suspension parts. For anyone interested, I'll see if I can get all the part numbers up so you guys don't have to spend $170 like i did.

John

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 144847 posted 10/20/04 10:14 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 144850 posted 10/20/04 10:19 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
how many HP's will we gain from this?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 144853 posted 10/20/04 10:24 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Just the Afco stick is a good 10HP to each wheel

John

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 144858 posted 10/20/04 10:32 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
ok the part numbers are as follows
from Afco racing website:
2x part # 19514 14" Swaged Steel Tube= 15.60 each
1x part # 30211 GN tie rod end= 15.50 each
1x part # 30212 GN tie rod end= 15.50 each
1x part # 10420 standard steel rod end= 11.85 each
1x part # 10421 standard steel rod end= 11.85 each
Total of $85.90 a pair.

you can substitute part # 10420/10421 with 10424/10425 for $36.70 each.

There are 2 metal bushings on each side of the tie rod ends that I'm still looking for part #'s. I'll let everyone know when I get it.

John

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 144860 posted 10/20/04 10:35 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
This is to build the part here?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7928180846&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

I was thinking about buying these.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 144862 posted 10/20/04 10:40 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

This is to build the part here?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7928180846&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

I was thinking about buying these.




That's exactly it. I bought them a couple of months ago, but they shipped it to the wrong address and had to recharge me additional shipping Finally got them today.

So I paid 175 for something I could have built for under $100.

On the picture, you see that there is a bushing on each side of the rod end. I'm not sure if he made these himself or odered them thru afco. there is a couple of parts that I see that may be used. I'm going to order a set from afco to see which ones are the right ones and will let everyone know.

John

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 144866 posted 10/20/04 10:50 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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how many HP's will we gain from this?




I have witnessed a high powered car on a dyno gain real hp from a proper alignment.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 144868 posted 10/20/04 10:55 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
ok i couldn't find anything from the afco website on the metal bushing. here are the specs though.

length= 7/8"
small end- outter diameter 3/4" inner diametet 9/16"
big end- outter diameter 7/8" inner diameter 9/16"

BTW: Just realized that some may not like that I am posting up these info, especially if the one who is making and selling these on e-bay is a fellow dsmer. If the mods want me to edit and take this post out please let me know.

John

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 144870 posted 10/20/04 10:59 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
hopefully you'll have more luck with those than i had with the ingalls rear adjustable arms. had them on my gsx for about 6 months or so, untill the right rear broke in half after going over some bumps (on GCP by LaGuardia airport).
i drove the junk yards by the shea stadium with it broken (i put on the spare because my regular wheel was rubbing against the spring/shock) and had it welded there.
i alsmost made it home when it broke again just few blocks away. went to gary at mitsubishi grave yard and got 2 stock arms and put them in.
ingalls sux major ass.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 144871 posted 10/20/04 11:00 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I have no problems with it. If the guy expected to make a bunch of money from throwing together some off the shelf parts, he should rethink his business plan. What you did was inevitable. Now if you started selling them at a price just under his, then yes, you'd be bumping up against moral walls.

Carry on.

Mark

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 144882 posted 10/20/04 11:22 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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hopefully you'll have more luck with those than i had with the ingalls rear adjustable arms. had them on my gsx for about 6 months or so, untill the right rear broke in half after going over some bumps (on GCP by LaGuardia airport).
i drove the junk yards by the shea stadium with it broken (i put on the spare because my regular wheel was rubbing against the spring/shock) and had it welded there.
i alsmost made it home when it broke again just few blocks away. went to gary at mitsubishi grave yard and got 2 stock arms and put them in.
ingalls sux major ass.




Yeah Read about that Adrian. I'm hoping this will be able to take NYC streets beating the Galant will be my daily driver.

These bars definietly look beefer then the ingalls and are straight vs the bent arm design from ingalls.

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I have no problems with it. If the guy expected to make a bunch of money from throwing together some off the shelf parts, he should rethink his business plan. What you did was inevitable. Now if you started selling them at a price just under his, then yes, you'd be bumping up against moral walls.

Carry on.

Mark




Thanks mark.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 144893 posted 10/20/04 11:55 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
John, I think this is what your looking for. Rod End and Bushing Kit 20023K (3/4") comes with 1 jam nut and 2 rod end bushings. I read your post and it reminded me that I bought the same kit, only smaller (20013K, 5/8"), for my AFCO coilovers in my Typhoon. Hope this helps

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 144898 posted 10/20/04 12:03 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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John, I think this is what your looking for. Rod End and Bushing Kit 20023K (3/4") comes with 1 jam nut and 2 rod end bushings. I read your post and it reminded me that I bought the same kit, only smaller (20013K, 5/8"), for my AFCO coilovers in my Typhoon. Hope this helps




thanks Tommy, yeah I'm going to buy one to see if that is it or not. I'm hoping it is it'll save alot of headache for everyone looking for the correct parts.

John

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 144903 posted 10/20/04 12:27 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
John, is the shank on the rod end also 3/4" or is it 3/4" rod x 5/8" shank? I also found rod end spacers 10276 (5/8" i.d.) and 10277 (3/4"i.d.)


Edited by Tommyquest (10/20/04 12:28 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 144910 posted 10/20/04 12:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Would this also work on a tsi with a 4bolt rear? Or are there different rod lenghts involved?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 144916 posted 10/20/04 12:59 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I was thinking the same thing. I'm pretty sure they are the same thing. I'm going to build a set for my Eclipse. I should have an update on the parts.

I'll get pictures up also.

John

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jas3113
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 144917 posted 10/20/04 01:01 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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John, is the shank on the rod end also 3/4" or is it 3/4" rod x 5/8" shank? I also found rod end spacers 10276 (5/8" i.d.) and 10277 (3/4"i.d.)




Tommy, they are 3/4" also. I'll let you know how they work out. I'm going to order them when I get home tonight and have more time for research.

John

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 144922 posted 10/20/04 01:10 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Looking at the online eBay installed picture, is there enough unibody clearance at full bump? I'm guessing that there is, but from that perspective it sure looks close. OT - I wonder how long I've got until my Ingalls break.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 145068 posted 10/20/04 08:04 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Hey Mods. Think we could move this to the "HOW TO" section? Also, YOU THE MAN John!
Thanks Bro!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 145078 posted 10/20/04 08:22 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yeah, I agree...this is good info to have 'on hand'; thanks for posting the parts involved!

I had a question about the spherical rod ends...are they high quality type and do they have any 'safety' built in, should they shear (I guess by nature they would, but thinking more on the bolt side of it and have read some horror stories using them, but that is mostly with 4byin' applications, which is a whole 'nother can of worms on the suspension forces )...I guess the forces we encounter in this location though wouldn't be so much of a concern, but I'm still curious...

This looks like a nice 'upgrade' and will add another one to my 'to do list' now, he he...Thanks again for the info...

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 145216 posted 10/21/04 08:51 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Do you think this setup can survive some rallycross / somewhat abusive unpaved driving?



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jas3113
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 145226 posted 10/21/04 09:17 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
It looks like it may be able to. I forgot to bring them home with me, but I'll get more pictures up of the arms .

John

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 148327 posted 10/29/04 03:59 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Any pics yet?

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