GSTwithPSI
(A hole)
10/25/15 01:14 AM
New Owner Of 1546/2000

It has been a long night and it's late as hell, but I just tucked 1546/2000 away in the garage for the night.



G
(JDM Unit)
10/25/15 01:33 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

#3? Dude you're freaking nuts!

89Patches
(I <3 AMS)
10/25/15 02:02 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Man you must really like these shit boxes.

LIV4PSI
(dyslexic 1051 )
10/25/15 02:11 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Quoting G:

#3? Dude you're freaking nuts!





My thoughts exactly. Its look pretty clean though


transparentdsm
(I have to say something dumb Member)
10/25/15 06:41 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

DAMN! if i ever go back east im going to Bretts rental for a sweet Galant!

FlyingEagle
(Eager Beaver)
10/25/15 09:49 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Was this the car posted as having a motor issue and sitting for couple of year since?

Jesus_Negros
(Unempowered ADMIN)
10/25/15 10:43 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

I remember when I was looking to replace my gvr4 I couldn't find a gvr4 in the DC/Maryland/Virginia area. Now this nigga has 3?

Mr_Fielgood
(Member)
10/25/15 03:19 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Surprised you went with nile black this time.

GSTwithPSI
(A hole)
10/25/15 09:28 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

I saw 1546 for sale on Craigslist, and immediately knew I wanted it. It's a 2 owner car, and COMPLETELY stock. The second owner, Robert, said he picked up the car in 1998 when it was brought in as a trade at the dealership he worked at. From that time on, I'm told it was used as a daily driver. Working with Robert on the sale was awesome, and I couldn't have asked for a smoother transaction. I could tell as I was loading it onto the trailer, it wasn't easy for him to let the car go. I assured him the car was in good hands, and I'd do my best to have it back on the road in no time. Here are some pictures of the car from the sale ad:
















The goal for this build is a completely stock restoration. It's hard to find completely unmolested examples like this, and I'm going to take advantage of that fact. The car does have some issues, though.

Overall, the body is pretty clean. There doesn't appear to be any real rust issues, but I won't really be able to confirm until I pull the fenders and such. The roof, front bumper, and cladding all need paint. The rest of the paint looks pretty good for its age. The wheels will also need to be refinished as well.

The interior is rough. The carpet is some kind of aftermarket stuff, and looks horrible. I'll get a stock carpet to restore and replace the current stuff with. The rear seats are trashed, so those will need replaced too. The steering wheel is junk, and the dash is lifting and peeling in places. I'd rate the interior in its current state a 3 out of 10.

Mechanically, the car will need some work. Robert said he believed the car needs a motor. I pulled the plugs, and found a set of Autolite platinums


After seeing the plugs, I wasn't terribly surprised with the next discovery...


Luckily, the car was still perfectly in time. I spun the motor over by hand, and it felt smooth.



So, I hit the key and nothing. Turns out, the grounds were terribly corroded, so I removed them, cleaned them, put everything back and tried again. I hit the key and the motor cranked right over.




Once the car was turning over again, I proceed to check for spark. Nothing. So, I pulled the ECU and found it blown the fuck up:








The IC107 driver was blown; ISC coil pair A. So, pulled the old ISC and swapped in a good revised unit.




While I was screwing with the ISC, I found a sweet rat nest...


Then, I swapped in a spare ECU and tried to crank the car over again. Still no spark. I pulled the CAS and found it 180* out. So, turned the car over to #1 TDC, lined up the CAS and tried to crank the car yet again...No spark.

I have since swapped in:
-Known good CAS
-Known good coil pack
-Known good wires
-Known good transistor box

Since I had spares on hand, I did some quick swaps to try and find the issue. It's clear now, that I'll need to dig into the harness and start doing some real electrical testing and diagnosis. Any ideas or suggestions on what the issue may be would be appreciated. Hopefully I'll have some more time to screw with the car tomorrow.


transparentdsm
(I have to say something dumb Member)
10/26/15 03:49 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

little resistor on the back of the intake manifold. is the wire still intact?

GSTwithPSI
(A hole)
10/26/15 06:08 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

The noise supressor was there, but I didn't check it over very closely. Would it cause no spark, though?

matt92vr4
(Member ++)
10/26/15 09:02 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Did you try swapping the PTU?

iceman69510
(Turn Right Racing)
10/26/15 09:14 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Yes he did.

Quote:

I have since swapped in:
-Known good CAS
-Known good coil pack
-Known good wires
-Known good transistor box




Olson
(Pwnd by Rance.)
10/26/15 10:36 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Not a bad looking car there

faqinshiet
(Member +)
10/26/15 10:57 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Great pick up!

prove_it
(my racist jokes aren't actually funny)
10/26/15 02:19 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Does the fuel pump run? Could be main relay, can't remember if this kills spark or not.

GSTwithPSI
(A hole)
10/26/15 09:26 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Given the few troubles I've already had with grounds, I decided to remove and clean all the grounds I could readily find. I also depinned the coil pack connector and replaced it. I put everything back together, and suddenly the car has spark. I'm not sure exactly what I fixed, but it's working none the less.

Once the car was sparking again, I ran a compression test just to see where I was at. The results weren't what I was hoping for. Starting with cylinder 4, I saw 150-50-90-120. Not exactly inspiring results. In addition, there's a nasty knocking sound that's developed now that the crankshaft has compression to work against. Considering I had nothing to lose at this point, I threw in a set of NGK plugs and tried to start the car. It cranks and doesn't even attempt to fire. I'd think even with the low compression on cylinders 2 and 3, the car would start? It doesn't even try, though.

I still need to verify the fuel side of things is good to go. I can smell gas when the car cranks, but that's not a very definitive test. I verified the fuel pump is operational by jumping the test connector to +12V. The pump runs, but sounds pretty weak. I also pulled the CAS and spun it by hand, which also kicked on the pump. So, at least it seems like the circuitry is working as it should. I'll pull the fuel rail and verify the injectors are all spraying this weekend. I figure I should probably pull the pump too and see what the situation is in there as well.

I suppose something stupid like a screwed up CTS could also be causing a no start issue as well. I may swap in ECMlink from 820 to make troubleshooting a bit easier.

Basically, 1546 is definitely going to need some love before it's even close to being roadworthy again. Yanno, just business as usual fixing up another 20 year old shitbox


Scott Y
(mighty skunk hunter)
10/26/15 10:02 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

It may not mean anything, but just in case...
If the car hasn't had spark for a long time, and you've done a lot of cranking without the engine running, the cylinders might be washed out with gas and compression readings become very unpredictable. You might get a different result if you can manage to get the car running and do a follow up test.
I had a Mazda5 that had really bad fuel, and I went through 2 battery's worth of charge and a bunch of fiddling to get it running again. I did a compression test and the numbers indicated that the 2 middle cylinders were shot; they were about 1/2 of normal. I ended up draining and replacing the bad gas, and the car has run like a champ since, and the compression numbers are all normal now. Didn't change anything except the fuel.

Just a thought. Good luck on the build, car looks full of promise.


GSTwithPSI
(A hole)
10/26/15 10:26 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Thanks for the reply.

I had the injectors unplugged while cranking/testing, up until I verified I had spark again. At the time of the compression test, the car hadn't see fuel from the injectors in over 12 hours. As you pointed out though, I was hoping to get some better results after running the motor, and getting a hot reading.

Good point on the gas. I was planning on dumping some new stuff in just to see what happens.


prove_it
(my racist jokes aren't actually funny)
10/27/15 09:08 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Was it trying to start, I.E. sputtering but not starting? You asked about low compression causing a no start, and it could but the good cylinders would fire and try to run so you'd get a sputtering almost start. If flat out nothing, then I'd say injectors weren't firing.

marvinmadman
(Senior Member)
10/27/15 09:10 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Could be frozen injectors and a rusty pump/tank.

strokin4dr
(fighting them with a large needle)
10/27/15 09:47 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

^+1
I've seen some nasty fuel systems from sitting


Olson
(Pwnd by Rance.)
10/27/15 03:20 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Pull your injectors put power to them and run brake cleaner through them. 1 they will be "cleaned" and two you know they will work. go from there. Air Fuel Spark. I know you know this but there is easy ways to do shit

turbohf
(anyone even read this?)
10/27/15 03:39 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

my car had a burnt valve on 2 cylinders. and it would try to run. I think 2&3 where the dead ones.

so I would still try to verify the rest before giving up on the motor. see if the numbers come back at all.


GSTwithPSI
(A hole)
10/27/15 07:08 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Ryan, the car doesn't even try to fire. Not even a sputter.

The plan ahead is to dig into the fuel system next. I'll start with the pump and tank, then work my way up to the rail and injectors. I'll replace all the filters in between.

The knocking is what I'm really worried about. I'm already planning on needing a new bottom end, so anything short of that would be a perk.


GSTwithPSI
(A hole)
10/28/15 03:09 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Well, good news and bad news. The good news is I got the car to run. The bad news is the motor is still junk.

The reason the car wasn't starting was due to a bad fuel pump. I ended up pulling the supply line off the fuel rail and activated the pump. It would run, but wouldn't move any fuel. I thought it sounded weak, and turns out it was. With that discovery, I tore down the whole system.

I pulled the pump and inspected the tank and pump hanger. The tank was clean, and the hanger had the typical surface rust. I swapped out the pump with a spare I had on the shelf, and replaced the strainer sock. What little sediment was in the tank I sucked out with my vacuum bleeder, and reinstalled the pump hanger.


Then, I went up front and pulled the fuel rail, injectors, fuel filter, and lines. I swapped out the old injectors with some known good spares to ensure they weren't causing any problems. I replaced the seals as well. Next, I blew out all the fuel lines with compressed air. After everything was clean, I replaced the fuel filter and reinstalled the injectors and rail.

With the fuel system back together, I activated the pump once again by jumping the test connector. I checked for leaks and made sure everything was good to go. Satisfied, I jumped in the car and hit the key. It rolled over and fired right up.

Once the car started, I was running great right off the bat. The motor felt fairly smooth at idle, and I could only hear a bit of ticking. I reached under the hood to rev the motor, and heard what sounds like one or more of the pistons slapping. Whenever you transition on and off the throttle, you can hear an audible slapping noise. It's definitely not a rod knock. As the car warmed up, the slap got a tiny bit worse. I was still able to drive the car down the street and back, and move it in and out of the garage. The motor seems to run pretty well aside from the piston slap. Here's a short video of the slapping sound: click

In light of my latest discovery, I'll be on the lookout for a short block for 1546. Until then, I'll do some more inspecting and evaluation to see where else the car needs attention.


89Patches
(I <3 AMS)
10/28/15 03:21 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Linky no worky.

GSTwithPSI
(A hole)
10/28/15 03:29 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Fixed.

89Patches
(I <3 AMS)
10/28/15 04:38 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Sounds like rod knock to me. What's the oil look like? Also cutting the oil filter open would tell you right away.

FlyingEagle
(Eager Beaver)
10/28/15 04:48 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Rod/piston pin knock or other .... ?

Also pull the side engine cover and inspect the timing tensioner/pulley after an oil filter inspection.

If you find debris, it will indicate that the longer you have the motor running, the more debris could be lodging in your oil system up stream (cylinder head passages).


GSTwithPSI
(A hole)
10/28/15 04:54 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

The sound quality on the cell phone video sucks. It sounds way more tame in person. I'll try and take some video with my GoPro.

I'm pretty confident it's not a rod knock. At idle, you can hardly even hear the noise. If you're in the car, it's nonexistent. I'll drain the oil and see what it looks like.


89Patches
(I <3 AMS)
10/28/15 06:26 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

I diagnosed engine noise for a local that turned out to be rod knock. Sounds just like yours. Well a lot less loud than yours...

Here is the video he sent me: click


G
(JDM Unit)
10/28/15 06:36 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

That sucks. Did the seller tell you the motor was bad? What was his reason for selling? I'm sure he knew it was toast but just let it sit for awhile. Like I always say there is always a reason (problem) a car is for sale.

CutlassJim
(poop load of room)
10/28/15 06:47 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

It's rod knock. Pull the injector wires one by one to see which cylinder it is.

GSTwithPSI
(A hole)
10/28/15 07:09 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

^Did that, and no change. Which is another reason I don't think it's a rod. Either way, the bottom end is trash. I'll pull the pan probably sometime this weekend and see what the issue is.

Jesus_Negros
(Unempowered ADMIN)
10/28/15 07:28 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

I picked up a 2g for really cheap that didn't run. Once I got it running, it had the same noise. Got worse as the rpm's went up. Sound was nearly none existent at idle. It was rod knock. It only had 84k miles on it.

prove_it
(my racist jokes aren't actually funny)
10/29/15 09:32 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Unless the bearing is completely gone and trash, rod knock is louder under load and CAN be non existent at idle with no load.

It sounds like a rod bearing is toast to me. Might not be that bad, if your keeping it stock, you MIGHT get away with a "simple" rebuild. Basically tear down the engine to clean it up and slap new bearings in it. If it just started then theres a decent chance the crank is still good.

Now is the time to decide if your leaving her stock or going to build it up to a certain power level.


GSTwithPSI
(A hole)
10/30/15 09:37 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

This car warrants a factory restoration. I have zero plans or interest in modding this. Possibly wheels and suspension, but that'd be about the extent of it. I doubt I'll even do that, though.

Here's my current goal for 1546: click


turbowop
(Hard Snarker)
10/30/15 12:11 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

All I ask is that you do JDM bumpers.

prove_it
(my racist jokes aren't actually funny)
10/30/15 01:33 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

I knew you'd say that Mark.

Next G will rattle on and on about jdm this and that you need caz mad jdm yo.

Dude, if you end up with rims, please lower it at least an inch on some springs. Don't want nice rims with a huge gap.


iceman69510
(Turn Right Racing)
10/30/15 01:38 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Quoting GSTwithPSI:

This car warrants a factory restoration. I have zero plans or interest in modding this. Possibly wheels and suspension, but that'd be about the extent of it. I doubt I'll even do that, though.

Here's my current goal for 1546: click




Agreed. Better snag those minty seats from the dude in Florida.


badams
(Bungie Battery)
10/30/15 09:27 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

I have an extra complete interior. Let me know if you want it.

GSTwithPSI
(A hole)
11/29/15 08:06 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

I gave 1546 a good wash over the weekend. The car looks like it's going to clean up really well. I'll need to respray the roof, front bumper and probably the cladding. Hopefully I can get started on the motor as soon as time and money allow.




GSTwithPSI
(A hole)
07/02/16 08:18 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000




GSTwithPSI
(A hole)
10/01/16 06:09 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Well, I finally pulled 1546 in the garage tonight to start the restoration work. It just didn't feel quite right without a Galant on jack stands taking up space in the garage

Step 1, evaluation. East coast Galants = rust.

When I bought this car, I was well aware of what to look for regarding rust. When I gave it a once over in person, I knew I'd be cleaning up rust to some extent. The pinch welds had the typical surface rust, and you could see crap pinned inside the fender when you opened the door. But, the car looked pretty good overall, so I bought it anyways hoping for the best.

Today I pulled the front clip apart to evaluate the extent of the rust. I got really lucky, as there was hardly any damage save a bit of surface rust. No rot, and cleanup on this car should be a breeze.

For the love of god, people, pull your fenders. Your Galant could quite literally be rotting away right under your nose.









Overall, the car is pretty clean. It definitely needs some love, but that's just business as usual. The front clip will get cleaned, rust proofed, and painted. The the motor will come out and a new long block will go in. The interior is a disaster, so it will also come out and be replaced with nicer stuff. Yanno, just replacing everything on the entire car, per the usual.

I've decided on a complete factory restoration for this car. Showroom ready is the goal for this one.





GSTwithPSI
(A hole)
10/09/16 09:48 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Shaping up to to look like a real motor.


GSTwithPSI
(A hole)
01/15/17 10:32 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Once again, the Military has plans to move me, so this project got cut short of where I hoped to take it. I simply won't have the time to dedicate to finishing the car, so I sold it to a good friend in the local area. He's currently having a 2.3 stroker motor built, which I believe will end up in the Galant. His plans for this car are much more ambitious than the stock restoration I had planned. Most importantly, this car went to a good home, so I'm looking forward to seeing where he takes the build.



89Mirageman
(Senior Member)
01/15/17 04:50 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Sucks but completely understandable. So you coming to NC?

pot
(It's a twee shaker----choot him choot him)
01/15/17 07:49 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

I called the Pentagon today and also had my Secretary with long legs "buzz" the Marine Corps Commandant to have his Orders redirected here to NC. You can thank me later Brett.

GSTwithPSI
(A hole)
01/16/17 10:57 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

IDK, guys. Preferably I'd like to go back to SoCal, but the Marine Corps doesn't care about my "wants". It's looking like San Diego, Jacksonville, or maybe even Okinawa

If Okinawa, 1546 probably won't be the only Galant getting sold...


faqinshiet
(Member +)
01/17/17 02:09 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Oh man when it this supposed to happen? I'd like to swing by and meet up! Work and holidays have been crazy!

ob1murry
(Newbie)
01/25/17 04:24 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Well, I know that Brett is going to have a heart attack if I don't start updating this thread.

It's been kind of slow going so far, as I have struggled to find the time and energy to spend a bunch of time in the garage over the last week and a half or so. Then again, maybe I got turned off, since literally as soon as I put the car into the garage, it started leaking all over my floor.



The first thing I did was tackle the rusty rockers, cleaning them up and taking them down to bare metal, scuffing up the rest of the front clip and hitting it all with some POR-15. Unfortunately, since I don't have a spray gun with a tip big enough to spray something so thick, I decided to just brush it on. Unfortunately, I only took pics of the passenger side.



I was also able to go and pick up the new 2.3 shortblock from the machine shop, however, there seems to be an issue with the crank that is going to hold me up a bit on this. The engine is a 2.3 stroker using an OEM 6 bolt 100mm crank, Manley rods, .020 over 8.8:1 Wiseco pistons, Kiggly girdle, and ARP main studs.





Unfortunately, upon picking up the motor from the machine shop, there is definitely an issue with excessive rod side clearance, the shop told me beforehand, but I didn't realize how bad it was until I saw it for myself. Luckily, I was able to find another 6 bolt 100mm crank online at a decent price to buy, so hopefully this issue will be resolved quickly, and I can focus on finding a nice head a trans to mate up to the shortblock.

I imagine that the next job will be pulling out the rear subframe to upgrade the rear to a 4 bolt, and to delete the 4ws, followed by rust proofing the underside of the car. After that, I'll probably move up to the bay, remove the engine, and get the bay ready to be resprayed before the new engine and trans go in.

I'll probably do some work on the car in the other half of the garage first though to try and create enough space that I can spread some parts out and really get cranking on this project though, as I'm pretty anxious to get it done and back on the road. With any luck, it won't take too long, and Brett will get to see it get done before he leaves for where it is that he may be going.


ob1murry
(Newbie)
02/22/17 02:38 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

So, progress has been a little slow while I wait for some tax money to come in and deal with some of the bigger things the car needs, but I was able to find some time to work on the car a bit over the last few weekends.

Engine and transmission have been removed:




The new paint, and some goodies for the front subframe should be delivered this week, so the current plan is to strip the rest of the bay, drop the front subframe, and prep the bay for paint.

The head and the new crank for the stroker got dropped off at the machine shop earlier this week for some work. Hopefully the bay and subframe will be completed and back in place by the time the shop is done with it, and I can start reassembling the front half of the car rather than continuing to tear it down.


ApexHunter
(Extreme Indoor Cyclist)
02/23/17 11:26 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Yo! I'm glad to see the updates! Thank you!!!
The pics came out mega gigantic and it's tough to read. Maybe resize next time?
Keep up the good work.


ob1murry
(Newbie)
02/23/17 01:14 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Apologies. I use a massive 4K TV as my monitor at home, and didn't realize just how huge the pictures were until I saw them on the screen at work. I went ahead and resized them at the source, so they should be much better now.

All of the subframe bushings (minus the actual rear subframe bushings) arrived last night, the paint is scheduled for delivery tomorrow, and the machine shop just called to let me know that the head and crank are ready to be picked up. I'm really hopeful that at the end of the weekend I will have made some decent progress, unfortunately I'm going to have to put in some work on the other car in the garage to move it outside before I start spraying any paint and burning out old bushings.



ApexHunter
(Extreme Indoor Cyclist)
02/27/17 12:47 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Nice! I can see it all now!! Haha. Looks like the car found its way into good hands!

faqinshiet
(Member +)
02/27/17 05:10 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

That's awesome! Glad it stayed in the area!

ob1murry
(Newbie)
09/29/17 01:52 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Alright guys, I know it's been a while since I updated this, but I'm finally starting to get that overlap of free time, energy and money to pick up working on the car again.

Not a whole lot to update since the last time, except I ordered a bunch of parts to start buttoning up the engine.

New front case with BSE and water pump installed


GSC S2 cams and fidanza adjustable gears


New JMF Billet Race Intake Manifold


FP3065 Turbo Setup



There are a few more things that I forgot to grab pics of, including the head back from the machine shop with a light port & polish, as well as a new 5 angle valve job, the BC springs and retainers, and an ETS front mount for when everything gets buttoned up.

Like I said, progress has been kind of slow, but I'm hoping to pick it up a bit here now and try to get some work done over the next few weeks.


T3mp0r
(Junior Member)
09/29/17 06:24 PM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

It is really weird to see the turbo in someone elses's pictures. Good luck with the build and progress!

GSTwithPSI
(A hole)
04/18/18 12:51 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

Hurry the fuck up, Dan.

CutlassJim
(poop load of room)
04/18/18 11:20 AM
Re: New Owner Of 1546/2000

What he said.


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